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I'm debating whether or not to acquire a 14.5" barrel to make my SCAR16 my SHTF weapon, or to pick up a lightweight AR for this purpose. I'm envisioning a weapon that'll be light enough to travel with on foot, but have enough ballistic performance to be viable at 200-300 yards (think Recce build). I currently have my SCAR16 in 10" config, and although a bit heavy it balances perfectly. Was wondering if adding a 14.5" pinned barrel would make it too nose-heavy. Does anyone have theirs set up like that, and can weigh in?
 

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I think a 16 in h barreled rifle is perfect for SHTF. It's a personal preference in the end I think. Right now, I think you settle for what you already have, and concentrate on ammo, and attaching whatever force multipliers you deem necessary on your rifle. I think night vision is worth it's weight in gold, but pretty pricey. Lights, lasers, optics... So many things to bring to the dance. It will come down to physical conditioning, common sense, viable plans, and budget. I just built a 14.5 pin and weld because I found a good deal on a new MMC SOCOM barrel. While I'm a piston guy, if bad things happen, the AR is what this country is built on right now. I prefer black rifles over FDE, but while shooting a couple weeks ago, picking up them black rifles after they sat in the sun - then falling back on my gloves to do so, I have decided to go FDE in all things going forward. Just completed this build - my FDE fore grip arrives in the mail soon I hope - That and an optic is all that's left - but I'm working on limited hours thanks to Covid 19 - thus, the budget comes into play.


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A 16" vs 14.5" barrel on the 16 might be 1oz difference in weight if that's the reason for a shorter rifle. From the 16 to the 14 I'm guessing you might lose 65-75 fps, not enough to matter.
 

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I agree with 1KPerDay that there are probably other areas to find more return out of than your barrel length on your one rifle

Food, water, transport for proactive or otherwise retreat, fuel for that transport, communications, replenishing the food & water: these might be areas you have less covered than the rifle. When it comes to arms: how many shooters do you have? One gun sounds like very little. If you have a wife or kids, can they go from 0 to something rather than you going from 50% to 60% effectiveness?

Canyon's point about night vision makes me think about my own setup. My dog is inattentive as hell. Since I have a long & hand gun for the four of us maybe I should up my optics game rather than up the calibers
 
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Night vision and thermal are a must in the SHTF scenario. Decent equipment in either runs $2k+ each. I know mine are close to $3.5k each but after using them a lot recently against coyotes and foxes I can say it's a true game changer. I will say get the best you can afford in the NV, makes a huge difference.
 

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I guess I should clarify. A 10" can reach 2-300 but won't have enough velocity to achieve fragmentation.
Depends on your ammo. With good ammo, it shouldn't be a problem. With crappy ball ammo, you run the risk of not getting fragmentation with anything less than a 20" barrel anyways.

Personally, I find the 10" barrels the best balance point for the SCAR, as the design really just "feels" right at that size. Adding a longer barrel means you have more to worry about sticking out the end, but really doesn't change the balance that much. The difference in weight is extremely minor, and if you're really going to depend on that weapon, it's a difference you'll rapidly learn not to notice. Contrary to what some people think, a few ounces weight difference rapidly become irrelevant when you need to use it.
 

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Having a Scar 16 SBR is already a fantastic position to be in. Spend the money elsewhere if you ask me.
 

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Watch Paul Harrell's comparison of 556 in 20" and 10.5" barrels. Really changed my misconceptions. Still happy my AR with a 10.5" is throwing 7.62x39 though.
 

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I weapon factor I think you need long range weapon. Close quarter weapon and self defense weapon. Just pick your poison on the weapons. And go from there
 

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A 16" vs 14.5" barrel on the 16 might be 1oz difference in weight if that's the reason for a shorter rifle. From the 16 to the 14 I'm guessing you might lose 65-75 fps, not enough to matter.
Exactly, I have yet to understand giving up velocity in a SHTF. I want to be able to keep people back as far as possible,
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I have a 16 that PMM pinned and welded a Silencerco QD suppressor brake on for a OAL omg 16”.
It feels better balanced for me.
I’ve put PM rail elimination panels on it and it makes for a front end I can grip better as I have small hands and the 16 goes from a width of 58mm to 41mm.
I’ve attached a bit porn for you all.
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Nice setup. Please explain the point of the lumps on the hand stop.
 

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It is made by Odin Works.
Resting my left hand palm in there gives me a better grip.
My hand and forearm allow only so much twist to the left to get my palm flat with the bottom rail.
It could also be used further up front to rest against a door frame or block wall for stability.
My hand then is stopped up front against the back end of the hand stop.
Anyway I like the better grip. It weighs just over 1 oz.
 
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