So how effective would the 5.7 be against hostile animals, mainly bears? I want to carry the FN 57 when I am out here in the bush of Alaska and I would like to know how effective it would be.
5.7mm v. Bears
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It might be fine for small animals, but I guarantee you - it isn't powerful enough to take out a bear. MAYBE if you emptied the entire mag into him 
But don't aim at his head. Bears have super thick skulls. U need a 44 mag at a minimum. The 5.7 round doesn't compare to that.
But don't aim at his head. Bears have super thick skulls. U need a 44 mag at a minimum. The 5.7 round doesn't compare to that.
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you may as well throw rocks at him ....
look at somthing like this i have one and it would do very well in that type of setting .....IMO or somthing in that group....
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=234&category=Revolver
look at somthing like this i have one and it would do very well in that type of setting .....IMO or somthing in that group....
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=234&category=Revolver
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Glock M20 loaded with 180gr. 15 round mags. Nuf said.
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Seriously......
If you need to protect yourself from bears but want a small rifle you might want to consider a Marlin lever action chambered in a larger cartridge like 45/70 or the new 308 Marlin Express.
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If you want in auto rifle check out the new .450 Bushmaster
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bushmaster450.asp
If you need to protect yourself from bears but want a small rifle you might want to consider a Marlin lever action chambered in a larger cartridge like 45/70 or the new 308 Marlin Express.
If you want in auto rifle check out the new .450 Bushmaster
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bushmaster450.asp
I was hoping to reduce the weight, I roll with a Glock 21 at the moment. I have seen the .454 alaskan revover but I really am not a fan of it or revolvers in general. I was trying to justify a reason to by the 57. Time to come up with somthing els.
I was reading about 2 people from California who got mauled by a Kodiak a few years back...iirc, the ranger had to fire 11 .45 rounds into it to take it down...and he had 2 people w/ shotguns on standby, just to be safe.
I'd say carry a S&W 500, .44, or at least a .45
I'd say carry a S&W 500, .44, or at least a .45
A big gun is great for up here but if your walking down the road trail looking like rambo people are going to look at you funny. I get some strange looks when I have on my glock.
If I was fishing on the shore then yes it is quite acceptable to be pakcing a howitzer. Pull out a 40 pound King salmon and a bear will get interested.
If I was fishing on the shore then yes it is quite acceptable to be pakcing a howitzer. Pull out a 40 pound King salmon and a bear will get interested.
I was wondering about that myself. The only thing I could think of is they were saving the shotguns for an emergency and just tried using a pistol first. ..or maybe they wanted to find out if a bear could be stopped w/ a .45?Orbital said:
Here's a link to another article discussing the same attack I read about.
Kodiak attack
5.7 against a bear, you joking right? If not, sorry. It just seems to be a common sense kind of question/answer. I would get a Marlin .44 carbine or a Puma .454 Casull Carbine. Lightwieght, yet very powerfull. As for what others think when your walking along, who cares. Im sure Alaskans are used to seeing people with guns.
You can get the Puma 92 Carbine in .454, 16 inch barrel, High Viz Sights..................
http://www.legacysports.com/products/puma/puma_carbines.html
You can get the Puma 92 Carbine in .454, 16 inch barrel, High Viz Sights..................
http://www.legacysports.com/products/puma/puma_carbines.html
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Shotguns won't do Jack to a bear. Trust me. My gun instructor was involved in an incident where a bear had escaped inside of a zoo and the police shot the bear in the head with slugs and it just made him angrier. So they called Bill in and he shot it with his fully auto HK G3 and it put an end to the situation. The autopsy revealed the slugs flattened out against its scull. I would personally recommend the Smith & Wesson .460 revolver.
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i disagree i think you could stop a black bear with a ss195 in the heart of lungs from a frontal shot or side shot.
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I agree somewhat....The 5.7 has enough penetration to penetrate the skull and rupture the brain. It can also rupture the lungs or heart, however with that said, the 5.7 may not have enough stopping power to keep the bear from charging you. In other words, you could shoot it in the heart with the 5.7, but it may take it 30 minutes to an hour to die from the wound. The only way to ensure an immediate drop would be a shot to the brain. If it can penetrate body armor, it can penetrate animal skin....
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