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AAAAAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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so i go to the range, we have a couple things to do, but i always bring the PS with me, and i need to try the new brass diaper.

first round, first failure ever.

it fires, cycles and feeds, but no trigger reset?!?!

manaul of arms, dis/re-assemble, several inspections. 75 rounds later, it will fire a second round only if the charging handle is rapped, or the gun shaken fore/aft real hard, or smacked on the but, and only if one of these actions are applied with the finger OFF the trigger. so something is preventing the trigger from resetting.

Ok. the gun isnt immaculate. it is reasonably lubed, with militec. there is no detectible debris in the trigger cart. but no joy.

so i go home. very embarrassing.

several more dis/re-assemblies and close inspection. still no obvious reason for the failure. WTF!!! so i wash it. hot water, compressed air dry, try it again. manual trigger reset dryfire drill.... won't fail. works fine. AAAARRRGHHH!?!?!

so does this gun require an imaculate trgger? geesh, i hope not. im hoping it was some stay piece of crud that i just couldnt see, and this never happens again. very disappointing though.
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Sorry to hear that dude. Mine works 100%, and U don't really read too many complaints about the gun.

If it does it again, I'd send it in...
I can't give an opinion on gun safety...this is probably something you shouldn't do...but here is what I would do.

When the gun doesn't fire....take off the mag and look at the bolt, round, and chamber. I know I know, this is dangerous.

I bet the bolt isn't forward enough to completely push the round in the chamber. If it isn't closed completely...the trigger will not engage the hammer. There appears to be a safety mechanizm to prevent this in the design of the weapon. Therefore one of a few things would cause it, well at least that is what I surmize anyhow:

Here are the problems I can think of that might cause this:

1. There is some resistance being experienced by your bolt during movement...preventing the spring from doing its job of slamming the bullet into the chamber.

2. The weight slammer thing....that extra weight looking thing on the left side of yoru bolt is not moving freely and is not providing the final "tap" to ensure the round is securly and totally in the chamber.

3. You are using once fired brass (or ammo with laquer buildup) and this is providing resistance to the round entering the chamber. Possibly the slug is not properly placed in the brass resulting in a "taller" or "longer" round that does not fit into the chamber properly.

4. There is something in the chamber that prevents the round from entering smoothly. Check the chamber for build-up or something else. try taking the weapon appart and puttling a live round in the chamber. Does it enter smoothly?

5. Once my mag and mag spring were inhibited by dirt inside the plastic mag. Make sure the inside of the mag is clean and free from debris. Do you have any kind of buildup in the lips of the mag that don't allow the bullet to be stripped from it easily? If you load a mag the rounds should come out using your fingers pretty easily.
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Maybe you were playing with it too much, my dad always told me if you play with it to much you'll break it. :lol:
i think she was just mad at me, cuz we had a 118 year old springfield out there and i had fondled it before i shot her, so possibly i was not playing with it enoughi will try the range again later, but the trigger is now behaving properly 100% of the time. freekish. just freekish.
Sound just like a lady, Sometimes she whats to be pampered and other times she just wants to be left alone and shuts you down. LOL
I've heard that firing residue can collect on the rods connecting the trigger to the trigger pack causing the same malfunction that you describe. Give them both a good wipedown followed by a touch of lube (graphite or CLP) and see if that helps. Keep us posted!...
Tomac
lightfighter said:
i think she was just mad at me, cuz we had a 118 year old springfield out there and i had fondled it before i shot her, so possibly i was not playing with it enoughi will try the range again later, but the trigger is now behaving properly 100% of the time. freekish. just freekish.
Glad to know I'm not the only one here who fondles firearms. :lol: :lol:
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