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I've never posted a story about the service members' of our country, but reading the testimony of the Generals latest response to actions required to balance the DoD budget makes me sick. How many MIL members of this forum are willing to take a loss?
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General Tells Congress Troops Are Willing To Sacrifice Pay

In testimony to Congress last week, military leaders told Congress that military personnel are understanding as to why they must take pay cuts. The officials told Congress that troops are ready and willing to sacrifice their pay. The officials said that pay cuts must come first over making cuts to equipment and training, and that the troops understand this best.


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Senior Pentagon officials told Congress on Tuesday that troops are willing to sacrifice portions of their pay and benefits if it means keeping and improving the training and equipment needed to do their jobs.
Vice Adm. William F. Moran, chief of naval personnel and deputy chief of naval operations, told lawmakers that sailors he has met with over the past six months have spoken more about “the quality of the service” they’re able to do than anything other topic.
The view was shared by other officials, including Sheryl E. Murray, assistant deputy commandant for manpower and reserve affairs for the Marine Corps.
“I would emphasize our Marines do enjoy a good quality of life. Our Marines love being in the Marine Corps family,” she said. “Most of all, they want the right equipment. … They want to be trained, and they want to be ready. That is the overriding desire.”
Personnel officials from the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and the Department of Defense met with the House Armed Services’ Military Personnel subcommittee to talk about cuts to pay and benefits the Pentagon is proposing for its upcoming budget.
These include a smaller pay raise — 1 percent raise, an average 5 percent reduction in housing allowances, and higher health care fees for some retirees.
The proposed budget for next year is $496 billion, reflecting a savings of $176 billion, according to the Pentagon, because of the personnel cuts.
Military leaders say personnel costs make up about a third of their budgets and remain the fasting growing portion. Unless the trend is slowed and reversed, manning costs will eventually make it impossible to meet other funding needs, the military brass has said.
“That’s why we are asking for a 1 percent [troop pay increase] instead of a 2 or higher percentage, so we can slow that growth of a military member’s pay and also be able to bolster their readiness and bolster the modernization,” Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness Jessica Wright said.
“The quality of life is good, but the quality of service, we believe, for our military members is lower, and so we would like to balance that,” she said.
Army Deputy Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Howard Bromberg said quality of life is important, but added “we can’t afford to lower the training standards in defense of something else.”
However, the personnel officials who offered testimony before the subcommittee could offer only personal anecdotes to back up their belief that troops would welcome pay and benefit cuts. No survey results were offered. Leaders also said it could not wait for the results of a commission due to issue its report on military pay and benefits next year.
Testimony from the military brass took some lawmakers by surprise after troop advocacy groups have rejected the cuts to pay and benefits proposed in the upcoming budget.
Rep. Joe Heck, R-Nev., reminded the Pentagon officials that the Military Compensation and Retirement Modernization Commission is expected to turn in its review and recommendation a year from now. He cautioned that they are asking to make significant changes in these areas without the benefit of the commission’s findings.


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Those pentagon officials make enough money to be able to sacrafice some pay. They aren't speaking for the majority. Why don't we cut the pay of people who don't work or contribute to society. The working people shouldn't carry the entire load. There are plenty of people that get around just fine and chose to be idiots versus getting a job that receive pay and benefits that equal close to $60,000 per year. Take it from them first.
 

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As a tax payer I'd say hell no. Unfortunately, until we start spending less it would just be providing the government more money to throw down a rabbit hole.

If you are riding the Titanic, there is no sense going any way but first class.
 

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How about an option that says...go **** yourself. We have spent trillions on bull**** contracts for DoD. These same generals then retire to go on and work for companies like Lockheed. It just makes me sick.
My Father worked for Bendix a long time ago. One day he pointed out the row of designated parking spaces for several retired Admirals that worked for Bendix. The plant was working on Navy contracts, can you say, quid pro quo.
 

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If Harry Reid agreed to pay my mortgage then yeah, I'd agree to a very slight pay cut.
 
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Congress keeps voting themselves raises and all they have earned is something not wise to say on internet but the guys who sacrifice their lives to ensure we can live ours need a pay cut to help balance budget lmfao oh yeah this makes total sense
 

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I would take a pay cut if it meant good soldiers can stay in and are not forced out because of Washington's purge of the military. Also, there would need to be sacrifices on all sides; not just the military.
 

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Also, there would need to be sacrifices on all sides; not just the military.
^ I would love to see this make the news. Just imagine the headlines if all of congress agreed to a decrease in pay by 1%.
 

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Those pentagon officials make enough money to be able to sacrafice some pay. They aren't speaking for the majority. Why don't we cut the pay of people who don't work or contribute to society. The working people shouldn't carry the entire load. There are plenty of people that get around just fine and chose to be idiots versus getting a job that receive pay and benefits that equal close to $60,000 per year. Take it from them first.
I don't know... 140,000.00$ a year just isn't enough these days. Not to mention the pidly full retirement bennifits.

This is regodamneddiculous.
 
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I have been in the service for almost six years now... And every year there is less and less money spent on quality training, equipment, etc. i originally intended to do my 20 years and retire, however, I am definitely getting out the first chance I get. Politicians are destroying our military. You should see how easy basic training is anymore... They sure are creating a lot of ****bag soldiers. Speaking of equipment, our unit is still fielding M16A2's. Politicians have NO RIGHT to speak for soldiers, especially regarding pay. Unbelievable.
 

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All those pot lickers in the House and Senate should lead from the front - they take a pay cut 1st ... then yea ... I think PVT Snuffy could 'maybe' THEN take a slight reduction in pay

Hell - they are already taking HUGE cuts in dollars that pays for "live fire" training....
 

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All those pot lickers in the House and Senate should lead from the front - they take a pay cut 1st ... then yea ... I think PVT Snuffy could 'maybe' THEN take a slight reduction in pay

Hell - they are already taking HUGE cuts in dollars that pays for "live fire" training....
You are way too kind calling them " potlickers " sorry not to correct you but I can't even post what I think of them.
MKS official position " Hell NO " let sacrifices be made by our Politicians... 1st on the cutting block is their " Pension " Full pay & benefits.... WTF
Let them save their $$$ in a BS 401K , so it can be manipulated by the crooks and wiped out every 6-7 years..... JUST like the rest of US.

I do concur and admire your " Lead from the Front ".... front line of fire in Sandganistan !
Our founding fathers did not intend for any such thing as a career politician.... they were supposed to serve or country for 2 -4 years ... THEN GO HOME...

Sorry Bayonet.... don't mean to disrespect your post ! My apologies.
fin Politicians.
 

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Maybe just a little too much caffeine.... or did I take the wrong color pill this morning ????
 
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You are way too kind calling them " potlickers " sorry not to correct you but I can't even post what I think of them.
MKS official position " Hell NO " let sacrifices be made by our Politicians... 1st on the cutting block is their " Pension " Full pay & benefits.... WTF
Let them save their $$$ in a BS 401K , so it can be manipulated by the crooks and wiped out every 6-7 years..... JUST like the rest of US.

I do concur and admire your " Lead from the Front ".... front line of fire in Sandganistan !
Our founding fathers did not intend for any such thing as a career politician.... they were supposed to serve or country for 2 -4 years ... THEN GO HOME...

Sorry Bayonet.... don't mean to disrespect your post ! My apologies.
fin Politicians.
NONE taken - burns my a$$ - THEY want to take from those that give more every day .... even those that sacrificed all
 
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