[EBRfan]

I'm on the fence about acquiring an HK91. I need some help to push me into either 1) I "need" one or 2) it's an over-hyped waste of money.

Some background: Regarding MBRs, I have an M1A and a FAL already. I'm intrigued by the design differences of various weapons and my modest collection seems a little incomplete without a delayed roller-locked HK. I've handled a JLD PTR, and while it was certainly adequately put together, I'm not interested in a clone at this point. I will be looking for a lightly used shooter, not a NIB example. I've always had an interest in HK rifles, but I'm sure it is related to HKs effective marketing machine.

For those that have experience with the HK91, is it worth the ~$1800-$2K for a used one? Do you choose to take it to the range over your other rifles? If so, why? Easy or a pain to maintain? Accurate (for a MBR)? They have the reputation of being extraordinarily reliable...any counterclaims to this? So, finally, should I pull the trigger, so to speak, or should I target another FAL or M1A variant (both of which I enjoy) as my next addition?

Thanks for your opinions.

 

[NetJunkie]

If you want a real HK buy a 91. They are great guns. I love mine. If you want one to go out and shoot get a PTR91. The fit and finish is very close to as good as a real HK. They bought HK's tools and hired some HK people. So...it's as close as you can get without it being made in Germany in an HK facility. I'm thinking of getting one as a shooter and leave the HK91 in the safe.

 

[fatcat]

I enjoy my 91 but I dont shoot it much because... well.. its an H&K that goes up in value so sadly it stays in the safe. I ended up picking up a Cetme for 300 bucks and other than accuracy wise it seems to run the same and I do shoot the hell out of that.

Its an impressive weapon and is fun to shoot, I got mainly because I knew it would go up.

As far as shooting wise, its got more recoil then an FAL scope mounts are awfull and is a ***** to clean...

Sorry about any typeing errors Nyquill and this cold are not helping my typeing and spelling skills

 

[M1P90]

I have a CETME clone and an HK-91 clone. They are both pretty accurate and the Mags are VERY inexpencive. The down side is that the Scope mount will travel if you don't lock it down correctly and they are a pain to clean (mostly around the chamber area). They DO kick like a mule compaired to the M1A. If you are getting it as an investment I'd say go for it. If you want to shoot it I'd say get a clone. :?

The M1A is more accurate and has less kick and the scope stays balls on and it is easy to clean. Love it!

 

[fatcat]

Thats the best part about 91's or FALS... DIRT CHEAP MAGS!

I lost count of how many I have for each but at 3 bucks a mag thats ok!

1 Alloy H&K-91 mag $2.99 each, 20 rounds of Lake City .308 $12.99

Its quite sad when the ammo your shooting costs 4 times more than the H&K made mag its in.. :lol:

 

[NetJunkie]

One reason the PTR91 is a nice shooter is the integrated rail on top of the receiver. No need for the claw mount.

 

[AGG]

If you can find an excellent (98%+) HK91 for $2,000.00 or under- BUY IT!!! You will definitely be pleased with it, and it will only rise in value (assuming no abuse).

Tony

 

[EBRfan]

No HK haters here yet? Just kidding. Thanks for the responses so far. Any dissenting opinions?

 

[ShipWreck]

Any dissenting opinions?

Yes - you should buy it and donate it to the forum :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[iwannausername]

Think the FAL is a better design than the HK, which HK licensed as the G3 from Spain (CETME).

For a shooter, a JLD would be the equal of the German product, much cheaper and possibly easier to obtain as well...

 

[RiverRat]

I had a 91 once upon a time. Only complaint I had was that the ejection process put a great big dent in the side of the brass.

 

[fatcat]

Yeah, theres no reloading with these rifles unless you get a buffer (Good luck finding one) and on some softer .308 you can see the flutes from the chamber on the brass.

 

[EBRfan]

HK91 arrived today. A few handling marks but the internals look like it has hardly been fired. Now for some decent weather to get out to the range!

Thanks for all the feedback.

And sorry Ship, it might be a while before I consider donating it!

 

[fatcat]

Nice!

Now we need pictures!

 

[Turbozag]

I've owned a couple.

Personally, I like the AR-10 MUCH better.

 

[Adosh]

nothin wrong with real hk91, dont use cheap ammo though it doesnt work to well in my experience

although if you want the best hk ever made get an mp5 :?

 

[EBRfan]

Now we need pictures!

Soon. It is all in pieces on the bench right now for cleaning and inspection while I take care of some issues at work. I thought it was a little dirty, but the stuff I'm taking out of it looks like cosmoline or some type of old, light grease.

 

[ssallber]

I have a German HK91 SACO import that is one of my best rifles. The accuracy with the fixed sights is excellent. A Marine officer buddy of mine told me the Marine Corp did a study that he was aware of where it was found that the HK91 came out on top for reliability. They are very sturdy and well designed. They are pretty rough on brass so if you reload you may not like this. They get very dirty and are a pain to clean when returning from the range but oh well! I also have a German HK93 223 which I take to the range more often. This also is a superb rifle however is much harder to find. I actually prefer the 93 to the 91 since it seems better balanced. In any event you will not be disappointed if you get a 91, that is a promise.

 

[Abiqua14]

Replace the standard buffer in the stock with an MSG90 buffer and it will make a big difference in the felt recoil. The MSG90 buffer will run $125-150 and is easy to change over.