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dept of justice cashed my check today. So ive got that going for me!
mailed it on the 15th, so that actually does give me a warm fuzzy feeling in a sick sadistic govermental kind of way.
 

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Yeah, the NFA has been SLOOOW the last few months, dont expect it any time soon because it hurts even more when your expecting it and it takes a month to come ::FF::


Timeline for my last full auto.


NFA Paperwork dropped off on 12-13-07
Forum 4 faxed on 12-14-07
ATF cashed check 12-24-07
forum 4 and gun in hand 1-28-08

This forum 4 was done in a corporation to.

Congrats on getting it, its alot of fun to own something like that and it IS totaly worth the wait and money. 8)
 

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I think it has more to do with them being transferred to Justice and out of Treasury.

I've noticed that they have become much more professional all around. Dealing with them prior to the move was literal hell- my turn around time averaged 6+ months with a personal best of almost 1 year

The 1 year was an odyssey. ATF cashed the check but the examiner did not note that- they told me to send another $200 dollars and then I could put in a claim to see which an internal auditor would look into. I had the cancelled check in my hand but they refused to accept a fax or photocopied copy- I was told to send in the only proof I had so it could be verified. Eventually I had to make a special trip up to my local ATF office where a sworn statement in front of an agent was made that I was not ripping off the government. This along with a copy of the check was sent- 4 months later I got my Form 4 back- what a fracking nightmare.
 

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I don't know. This is only my second dealing with the ATF. The first was a Form 4 for a silencer, under a corporation. The paperwork and check were sent to them on the 3rd of July and approved on the 30th of July. It was the class III dealer that sat on it for a couple of months before I even knew that it was approved.

This is the second but it is a Form 1 for a SBR. It did not come in the mail today but in keeping with the holidays and such, I'll give them another week before I contact them.

Either way, it should (will because I have done nothing illegal and there is nothing that will stop them from approving the Form1) be approved as they cashed the check. The rules that they operate under require them to send the remittance back to you if the form is dis-approved, which means that they need to send the payment back in whatever form is was submitted to them. I do not think that they will get the mint to cut a check to re-imburse you for something that was cashed. That would just add additional time and manpower and costs.

Has anybody here had a Form (whatever) dis-approved and got a payment back in any other form then the way it was submitted?
 

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Form 1 approved on 11 Feb 08. 46 days total time including weekends, holidays, and the occasional what-ever the reason to take a day off day. Mine was for an LLC though.

When I spoke with the NFA person, his first question to me was "when was the check cashed"? This could mean that if your check is cashed, your Form 1 will be approved, it just takes time to get the signature done and the tax stamp affixed. I do not know if the tax stamp is affixed by the ATF or the IRS or some other dept within Treasury. The regulations that the ATF follows for the return of a Form 1 if DISAPPROVED states that the original form of payment must be returned with the paperwork stating the reason the Form 1 was disapproved. So it stands to reason that by the time the ATF cashes the check, the decision for approval has already been made.

I again pose the question to anyone who has had a Form 1 disapproved. Did you get your original form of payment (check, MO, other) back or some other form of payment such as a Treasury check?
 

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I've got 2 Form 1's and a Form 4 in right now... problem with them asking "has your check been cashed" doesn't quite apply to MO's. My F4 has been in since the 2nd week of dec... still waiting. The F1's have been there since 2nd week of Jan... same. Next time I'll be sure to cut a personal check!
 

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Just bought an M16 in January... the form 4 went "Pending" February 11th...

From what I've seen and read on subguns.com... its hit or miss, either closer to 28 days from "pending" before you get the approval, or closer to 45 days.

A lot depends on the examiner and specifically how much fire or lack there of is under their butt!

Even a 6 week wait is pretty good, considering before the ATF's move to ATL, transfers routinely took 90-120days or longer.

All part of the game... patience.
 

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oh yeah!!!





for the record.... I still think alcohol, tobacco and firearms should be a section at the 7-11, not a goverment agency.
 

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Nice rig! Wish I could do that... but the only BAD thing about Alabama... they have a NO SBR law on the books... the only way we can have SBR is that it's reistered as an NFA machine gun. :roll:

On the up side...
Dropped 2 form1's in the mail on Jan 3rd, approved Feb 15, recieved both back on Feb 21... :shock:
Dawn Henson rocks...
 
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