I 1st bought a white rec gun. Hadn't done my research + paid too much for a white rec gun. This time I checked guns america and gun broker for prices. After asking the group the same ? you're asking, I ended up getting getting both from CDNN (price was the same $1517) + $20 transfer + $10 background, but no taxes. Plus FN is doing a promo for the TRs, giving a free C-more red dot w/purchase. Need reciept, copy of 4477, and form off FN website. 4wks to process. Don't know what you do for a sight in the mean time. Went to the range today with a Zeiss red dot on the TR, and the usg. They are both tons beter than the white rec. In the day light kinda leaned toward the usg, but you can keep your head up w/the red dot (more comfortable). But after getting home and cleaning them it started getting dark, and the usg is not as good as a low light sight as any red dot. Where the white rec disappears in light backgrounds the blk rec goes away in dark backgrounds before the tritium kicks in. I haven't put a rail on my white rec yet, but there was a member that got a killer looking mt. from TROS, very low profile for either mini acog or aimpint ML. I'm gonna do the aimpoint mt. Final choice, TR.