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After that, I went on to continue shooting just as I always have, both with factory loads and my own reloads. If I were not here in Iraq with my mandated carry sidearm, I would still be happily carrying my FsN.The video's were made using my personal USG pistol. The safety that you refer to is a pin that is pushed up by a lever when the trigger is pulled; the pin unblocks the firing pin and allows forward travel of the firing pin when struck by the hammer. If the slide is too far back, the lever can't contact the firing pin block; and therefore the pin can't move forward and strike the primer.
I didn't do anything to disable the firing pin block in the video's; the video showed how far OOB my pistol is capable of firing.
When I disable the firing pin block, by inserting a small sliver of brass (of the variety found in the frame during cleaning) into it; the pisol will discharge when the slide is slightly further out of battery.
I want to state, again, that this weapon is not inherently dangerous; it has the same type of safety mechanisms that most modern autoloading firearms do. It is a very safe design.
The whole purpose of this thread, from what I understand, is to put pressure on FN to keep their word; right now it appears that they're doing their best to ignore him AFTER promissing to inspect it. All he wants is for them to do what they said they would do.
If it takes publicly 'calling them out,' well, so be it.
I'd also like to mention that I've received HUNDREDS of e-mail's and telephone calls from former and potential customers; some want to return their ammo, some want to know if its safe for them to shoot their guns.
I have to say "YES." This accident is a one-in-ten million occurance; the only reason its an issue is the shoddy treatment he's received from FN. I.e. broken promises.
Sorry Iceman but I just had to comment on this whole topic of the FiveseveN firing out of battery. I am brand new to FN firearms and in 7 days I will be picking up my new Fiveseven USGiCeMaN said:This thread is never going to die lol
Same here. Fist polly gun I have liked and I like the round for inside work. That is where the pistol will see used. Local gun shop just got in shipment of the HP ammo for $21.35 a box.GT1R390 said:I've read about that dude's 57 blowing up. did my research. i still bought my USG :shock:
If you just load to min and are a GOOD loader, then I cant see a problem. It's those habitually line-steppin' folks that just HAVE to push the envelope that get polymer-finger syndrome.2.With the whole reload thing...even if you have the best reloader in the world...does it not matter with this firearm and why?
The FiveseveN firearm is designed so that the hammer can not strike the firing pin until the firearm is within manufacturers designed firing parameters. In other words, the FiveseveN is designed so that IT CAN NOT fire Out of Battery. This is taken from a direct quote from FN after an investigation of a false claim of an OOB firing.Hey Members new here...I have been wanting a Five seveN since back in the day during my couterstrike gaming days. As I get closer to purchasing one, looking on the internet I come across this "Gun blowing up in hand story/stories" and "Firing out of battery"..so I have questions. I really want a five seven and I want to be assured that this will not happen to me unless I do something to cause it , not because of design flaw and a roll of the dice...
1.What in a nutshell is OOB and how many firearms do this? Why do they do this, why can it be dangerous? How can it be prevented?
2.With the whole reload thing...even if you have the best reloader in the world...does it not matter with this firearm and why?
....I am just looking for piece of mind for I really want to buy this gun.
An out of battery firing is caused when the action is not fully closed on a gun and the cartridge is ignited. The brass of almost every cartridge cannot handle the pressure generated inside without support from the chamber and so when a round is set off while not in battery the back end of the cartridge is exposed and ruptured wreaking ten kinds of hell on your gun generally. Any reputable manufacturer will have a firing pin block along with many other safety features that prevent this. Generally only misuse, abuse, and ignorant tinkering can cause these in any of the major manufacturer's weaponry. As HK said, the Fiveseven's hammer can not physically strike the firing pin once it move even minutely out of battery.Hey Members new here...I have been wanting a Five seveN since back in the day during my couterstrike gaming days. As I get closer to purchasing one, looking on the internet I come across this "Gun blowing up in hand story/stories" and "Firing out of battery"..so I have questions. I really want a five seven and I want to be assured that this will not happen to me unless I do something to cause it , not because of design flaw and a roll of the dice...
1.What in a nutshell is OOB and how many firearms do this? Why do they do this, why can it be dangerous? How can it be prevented?
2.With the whole reload thing...even if you have the best reloader in the world...does it not matter with this firearm and why?
....I am just looking for piece of mind for I really want to buy this gun.
Oh boy. You have no idea what you've just done. Be prepared.I have zero experience with reloading, I don't have intentions on using them unless I know a legitimate re loader even then I wouldn't be sure...
I found some other rounds on this website-- eliteammunition.net are these rounds ok?
Reloading the 5.7X28 mm is a precise science. Vary a little near the max loads and you will have a bad day. Many reloaders reload this round with no issues. Issues come into play when people exceed the max load of the cartridge and a spontaneous disassembly occurs or some other damage is done to the platform.I have zero experience with reloading, I don't have intentions on using them unless I know a legitimate re loader even then I wouldn't be sure...
I found some other rounds on this website-- eliteammunition.net are these rounds ok?
Any recommendations on where I should purchase my FiveSeven? I saw a picture of one with a digital camo slide I REALLY WOULD LIKE THAT ONE!
I am actually watching the newest episode of Top Guns on H2 and the Five Seven is on here and they did a field test, pretty much said it's great...and not to mention used by military and law enforcement systems all around the world.
So the threads about the bad five sevens blowing up how many documented occurrences are there and what do you think caused them?