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Here is some of the effects of the Trevin Martin circus in real time--now in the Florida legislature to further challenge the castle law, stand your ground--- if you carry, conceal carry, or hope to defend your house someday with out having to first use a "warning shot" contact your reps. See below a NRA--alert!











URGENT! HELP NEEDED
SB-448 -- Threat of Force to Stop Attackers



DATE: January 2, 2014
TO: USF & NRA Member and Friends
FROM: Marion P. Hammer
USF Executive Director
NRA Past President


Senate Bill 448 by Senator Greg Evers is on the agenda for the Senate Criminal Justice Committee Meeting on Wednesday, January 8, at 9:00am.




We need you to contact members of this Committee IMMEDIATELY.




SB-448 by Senator Greg Evers is a bill to stop abusive prosecutors from using 10-20-LIFE to prosecute people who, in self-defense, threaten to use deadly force against an attacker as a means to stop an attack.


Some anti-gun, anti-self-defense prosecutors have been abusing the 10-20-LIFE law to prosecute average citizens who displayed a weapon or gun in self-defense to make an attacker back off.

Average citizens who never would have been in the system if they had not been attacked and in fear for their own safety, are being persecuted and prosecuted for defending themselves.


Because citizens took responsibility for their own safety, some prosecutors treat them like criminals.


10-20-LIFE was passed to stop prosecutors and judges from slapping gun-wielding criminals on the wrist so they could quickly clear cases.


The 10-20-LIFE law was never intended to be used against citizens who, in an act of self-defense, threatened the use of force to stop an attacker, including the use of a warning shot. Yet, that's what some prosecutors are doing. They are willfully and knowingly violating the intent of the law.


Please E-MAIL Committee members and tell them to SUPPORT SB-448


IN THE SUBJECT LINE PUT: SUPPORT SB-448 Threat of Force


(To send your message to all just Block and Copy All email addresses into the "Send To" box)


[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected]



BACKGROUND: Please take a moment to read the below OpEd that I wrote for the SOUTH FLORIDA SUN-SENTINEL - The 10-20-Life law is being misused - Sun Sentinel


It's Not About Warning Shots -- The 10-20-Life law is being misused


By Marion P. Hammer December 7, 2013


Nothing in SB-448 and HB-89, the House Companion, allows warning shots nor do they promote or encourage warning shots.


Warning shots are not safe. Nonetheless, when people are in fear for their lives or the lives of loved ones, they might fire a warning shot rather than shoot someone. People make mistakes and do irrational things when in fear of death or injury. That doesn't mean they should go to prison for 20 years when there was no injury or harm done.

Warning shots are an unsafe result of the glorification of such conduct in movies and on TV. No one is recommending warning shots.


Nonetheless, a father should not be prosecuted under 10-20-Life for firing a warning shot. No harm was done yet a father was sent to prison for 20 years for firing a warning shot to stop an attacker from harming his daughter.


A mother should not be charged under 10-20-Life for firing a warning shot to stop an attack by an abusive ex-husband. It caused no injury and no harm yet she was prosecuted and sent to prison for 20 years. These are not isolated cases.


The simple truth is the intent of the 10-20-Life law is being violated. The law was intended to be used to lock up criminals who use guns during the commission or attempted commission of crimes.

It was intended to stop prosecutors and judges from slapping gun-toting criminals on the wrist so they could quickly clear cases.


The 10-20-Life law was never intended to be used against citizens who, in an act of self-defense, threatened the use of force to stop an attacker, including the unwise use of a warning shot. Yet, that's what some prosecutors are doing. They are willfully and knowingly violating the intent of the law.


The cold hard reality is that some prosecutors are treating law-abiding people like criminals. People who never would have been in the system had they not been attacked and in fear for their own safety are being prosecuted. Self-defense is not a crime, it is a right and prosecutors are trampling those rights.


The threat of force in self-defense should have the same protection as actually shooting someone in self-defense. You should not be required to shoot an attacker to have the protection of the law.

The issue is not warning shots, it's about protecting people from the abuse of prosecutorial discretion.


Marion P. Hammer is a past president of the National Rifle Association and executive director of Unified Sportsmen of Florida.


The 10-20-LIFE Law is a Minimum Mandatory law that mandates specific penalties for criminals who use guns to commit crimes:


10 years in prison for pulling a gunduring the commission of a crime.


20 years in prison for shooting a gun during the commission of a crime.


25 years to Life in prison if you shoot someone during the commission of a crime.


For more information on 10-20-Life go here: 10-20-Life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia








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If you drop a line to them--- and I hope you will, even if your not in Florida-- so as to convince our silly leaders what is going on in the real world--- please post a note to encourage others and give a thanks to the people that have posted --- in effort to keep common sence laws- laws and avoid silliness and encourage endangerment.
 

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Thanks for the head's up!!! I'll post something when I get home from work.
 

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Just finished. Even with me not living in Florida at this time. I do have friends and family that do and they should have to worry about this type of BS if they were to ever have to defend themselves or their loved ones
 

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The law does not matter..... Illegals can get law degrees now. Pot is being used all across this country.... I wonder when some young gun lawyer will challenge any charge against the defendant due to the the ignoring of laws being applied unequally or some crap like that...... If it is good enough for one law to be ignored then we can ignore all laws....Otherwise it is just not fair I tell ya.
 

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But if Uncle Joe says to fire a warning shot out the window it must be so??

There is your argument, right there ^

People will fire warning shots because the VP said it was OK, and then will go to jail for following the advise of the country's second-in-command.
 

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How far we have fallen in terms of American leadership !!! Like being a dip **** has taken real estate -- over common sence.
 

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I sent a simple email saying please don't pass the warning shot/bill 448 to all of the emails listed.
 
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