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...as ridiculous as that sounds it's actually true. I'm certain he deserves some recognition but I was thinking more like an indictment for murder for those who died in nursing homes under his orders. As if 2020 couldn't get worse, now we're awarding bad behavior. No wonder people and businesses are fleeing New York in droves.

 

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The left realizes something many won't admit. We are literally at war in this country. It's Left vs Right. While the Right waists it's time playing into the enemy's hands with peaceful protests, the Left is implementing an age old strategy - winning the hearts and minds of people. They have employed the media to gain access to winning over the millions of dumbed down Americans. Inch by inch, they took over the education system, and taught socialistic values. Now they have built a political base out of them. They have actiually militarized them to an extent. It doesn't take much to defeat an adversary that will only peacefully protest.

Let me put it like this... If two people play poker, and one guy is cheating, the cheater will win every hand. It doesn't matter if the other guy is a much better poker player. You can't win if the other guy breaks the rules and you play fair.

The Right see's the Left playing dirty poker. Instead of rising from the chair, confronting the cheater, pulling his pistol and shooting the cheater dead, and taking his money back by force - like in the old western movies - The Right seems content to just keep throwing money into the pot and losing every hand. History is being written, and so far, the Right is being portrayed as dumb a$$ cowardly cowboys.

The glorification of Governor Andrew Cuomo, and countless other ridiculous things, will continue to happen until the Left is stopped by force. There's no need to be nice about it, but there is a need to do it.
 

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The left realizes something many won't admit. We are literally at war in this country. It's Left vs Right. While the Right waists it's time playing into the enemy's hands with peaceful protests, the Left is implementing an age old strategy - winning the hearts and minds of people. They have employed the media to gain access to winning over the millions of dumbed down Americans. Inch by inch, they took over the education system, and taught socialistic values. Now they have built a political base out of them. They have actiually militarized them to an extent. It doesn't take much to defeat an adversary that will only peacefully protest.

Let me put it like this... If two people play poker, and one guy is cheating, the cheater will win every hand. It doesn't matter if the other guy is a much better poker player. You can't win if the other guy breaks the rules and you play fair.

The Right see's the Left playing dirty poker. Instead of rising from the chair, confronting the cheater, pulling his pistol and shooting the cheater dead, and taking his money back by force - like in the old western movies - The Right seems content to just keep throwing money into the pot and losing every hand. History is being written, and so far, the Right is being portrayed as dumb a$$ cowardly cowboys.

The glorification of Governor Andrew Cuomo, and countless other ridiculous things, will continue to happen until the Left is stopped by force. There's no need to be nice about it, but there is a need to do it.
You know how a mirror works right. So to understand how the other side thinks, just do this with your post. Everywhere you say "Right" insert "Left". Everywhere you say "Left" insert "Right". Everywhere you say "Governor Andrew Cuomo" insert Donald J. Trump".

Here's how it is read by the other side:
The right realizes something many won't admit. We are literally at war in this country. It's Right vs Left. While the Left waits it's time playing into the enemy's hands with peaceful protests, the Right is implementing an age old strategy - winning the hearts and minds of people. They have employed the media (Fox News) to gain access to winning over the millions of dumbed down Americans. Inch by inch, they took over the education system (Secretary DeVoss), and taught socialistic values. Now they have built a political base out of them. They have actually militarized them to an extent. It doesn't take much to defeat an adversary that will only peacefully protest.

Let me put it like this... If two people play poker, and one guy is cheating, the cheater will win every hand. It doesn't matter if the other guy is a much better poker player. You can't win if the other guy breaks the rules and you play fair. (Donald J Trump and the electoral delegates from each state)

The Left see's the Right playing dirty poker. Instead of rising from the chair, confronting the cheater, pulling his pistol and shooting the cheater dead, and taking his money back by force - like in the old western movies - The Left seems content to just keep throwing money into the pot and losing every hand. History is being written, and so far, the Left is being portrayed as dumb a$$ cowardly cowboys.

The glorification of Former President Donald J Trump, and countless other ridiculous things, will continue to happen until the Right is stopped by force. There's no need to be nice about it, but there is a need to do it.
 

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The ironies with the Former President's legal position on the election:

1, He wanted the election results promptly, because the American people deserved it.
2. When it came to the Russian hoax, the impeachment and Kavanaugh, they said "...where is the proof"
3. When counting ballots, they were against Mail in ballots...look what happened...bad move
4. When it comes to abortion, the Left says My body my choice...When it comes to wearing a mask the Right says.......My body my choice. Really, do you guys not realize what you are saying?
5. When it comes to evidence, facts are necessary...not opinions. 1+1=2 Fact. I think there was wide spread fraud is Opinion. Argument from ignorance (from Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents "a lack of contrary evidence"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true. This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes the possibility that there may have been an insufficient investigation to prove that the proposition is either true or false.[1] It also does not allow for the possibility that the answer is unknowable, only knowable in the future, or neither completely true nor completely false.[2] In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used in an attempt to shift the burden of proof.
 

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osjim - While your comparisons look good on paper, they don't hold water when debated in even minor detail. The people who lack the effort to scrutinize the details of your shallow comparisons fall into that category of dumbed down Americans. The overwhelming majority of people on this forum don't fall into that category. For myself, I don't consider Trump my ideal candidate, and the Right share's responsibility in where our country is at today too. I'd like to see the size of government drastically reduced, spending cut, and the deficit and debt reduced / eliminated. Trump's not perfect, but I sure do support him and recognize his accomplishments.

The fraud in this election has indeed been proven - many times over, with solid evidence. And it is by far enough that Trump will be declared the winner at the end of this legal process. If your only news sources are CNN and MSNBC, perhaps you haven't heard. Funny how those media outlets started with saying there was no fraud, then not a significant amount of fraud, and have currently moved to not enough fraud to overturn the results ahahahaha.

My reply is far nicer than should be. Please don't mistake it for any kind of respect. You are a member of the Left, voting to take my 2nd amendment right, and various others away. The Left is my enemy, and you are part of the Left. Trump will remain in Office when all is said and done. And if I'm wrong, the Left is still my enemy.
 

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...as ridiculous as that sounds it's actually true. I'm certain he deserves some recognition but I was thinking more like an indictment for murder for those who died in nursing homes under his orders. As if 2020 couldn't get worse, now we're awarding bad behavior. No wonder people and businesses are fleeing New York in droves.

I don't really know Andrew Cuomo, and I've certainly never wasted my time watching him give a press briefing. That said, early on in this epidemic, he was giving factual, science-based advice, in stark contrast to a certain POTUS... Yes, NYC had and incredible outbreak that overwhelmed the hospital system and resulted in a lot of deaths. I'm not sure what he could have done better, given what we knew of COVID-19 at the time.

Is your gripe that a "liberal" is receiving some kind of public award or that this one "liberal" is particularly undeserving based on some set of concrete facts? The greater NYC area was horrific in April, but it's also the biggest urban area in the country... (Prove me wrong, if you will, with facts! I don't really care about opinions :) )
 

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I don't really know Andrew Cuomo, and I've certainly never wasted my time watching him give a press briefing. That said, early on in this epidemic, he was giving factual, science-based advice, in stark contrast to a certain POTUS... Yes, NYC had and incredible outbreak that overwhelmed the hospital system and resulted in a lot of deaths. I'm not sure what he could have done better, given what we knew of COVID-19 at the time.

Is your gripe that a "liberal" is receiving some kind of public award or that this one "liberal" is particularly undeserving based on some set of concrete facts? The greater NYC area was horrific in April, but it's also the biggest urban area in the country... (Prove me wrong, if you will, with facts! I don't really care about opinions :) )
No problem,

Cuomo threatened blood on Trump's hands if he didn't immediately send ventilators to NY. In reality less than a 10th of what Cuomo demanded were needed, that IS a fact!

Cuomo threatened blood on Trump's hands if he didn't immediately deploy a hospital ship. Less than a 1/10th of a 10th of beds were needed on that ship, that IS a fact! Does anyone have any idea how much it cost to retrofit that ship and deploy it not just monetary?

Cuomo threatened blood on Trump's hands if he didn't immediately stand up a mobile/temporary hospital. Less than 1/10th of a 10th of beds were needed there either, that IS a fact! Does anyone have any idea how much it cost to set that hospital up and again not just monetary?

Cuomo threatened blood on Trump's hands if he didn't immediately send PPE. The reality IS each state is required to maintain their OWN stockpile of PPE, each employer per OSHA is required to maintain their OWN inventory of PPE. The Feds are only a backstop NOT a convenient supply house. In the end all PPE needs were met without .gov assistance that IS a fact!

Now the big one, Cuomo ORDERED nursing homes to accept Covid-19 positive patients with zero state support to deal with them. I have built many they are NOT hospitals! Thousands of those people died, that IS a fact! Had any of us done that we'd be facing mass murder charges that IS also a fact!

Cuomo is an arrogant pompous @$$hole whose hatred of Trump cost thousands of lives, so now in the US we award Emmy's to mass murderers. One man's hatred for another man cost people their lives, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE! Anyone here OKAY with that? I sincerely hope not!!!

This is NOT where we're heading, this is where we have ARRIVED! One segment of American society is okay with awarding mass murderers. In the past they were generally awarded.... with death sentences.

Lastly, Cuomo was WRONG on all counts, that too IS fact! If any of us were wrong and it cost just one life, tell me, what would happen?
 
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