[STLJO]

Has anybody ever had their back plate wear out or crack due to firing gun a lot? Is this something I'd ever actually need or something just for the .308 in full auto in battle conditions.

having a plastic back to the action seems like a design flaw to me

 

[STLJO]

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Ive only put about 250 rounds through this gun but I will likely fire it thousands of times in the next few months. Just curious to see your opinions or if anyone has ever had that plate crack from regular use.

 

[kgknight]

This part is not something you need. Fire your thousands of rounds and reassess and if you feel you need it then you need it. I am not aware of this being a part that needs to be replaced due to a known issue.

 

[STLJO]

That's kind of how I felt but the plastic back to the action kind of worries me. Same reason I've never really been crazy about flocks (yea yea I know 80% of LE carry them and I own a couple myself) Idk I guess, I always look for failure points in these kind of things and this seems obvious, The rifle has been excellent so far though. Since it's my SHTF gun I'm always thinking about most extreme scenarios lol. I've put about $150 into AR500 steel with it with no malfunctions. Other than the "ok" stock trigger I absolutely love the platform.

Ill bet that in a couple years aftermarket companies will offer drop in stocks.

 

[STLJO]

Flocks of Glocks (thanks autocorrect)

 

[vertigosol]

I would think by the time you wore out a hinge plate you would more pressing issues to worry about like the bolt, barrel ... I personally believe that the polymer is better because if the plate was metal than stress fractures would occur a lot easier since metal does not give as well as polymer in this conditon

 

[SONYtec]

I would think by the time you wore out a hinge plate you would more pressing issues to worry about like the bolt, barrel ... I personally believe that the polymer is better because if the plate was metal than stress fractures would occur a lot easier since metal does not give as well as polymer in this conditon

No one has had any issue since the weapon was introduced.

We would have heard about it here on this forum, if it was.

 

[RHINOWSO]

In discussions with reps it seems they are trying to put together a systems to reduce the recoil impulse as well as weight of the SCAR17 platform. Handl seems to be quite secretive about it though, so it's hard to see what the final result will be, and aside from that general statement and it's metal not polymer, I have no idea what it does for you.

Personally I don't see a need to have this product at this time, just to have a metal piece in place of what FN designed as a polymer piece. Same reason I don't see the need to have a metal lower or buttstock of any variety, make or model, regardless of who's name is scratched into the anodized aluminum on the product.

Regardless it is good to have a variety of aftermarket SCAR products even with the continual tea-fights, fanboys, and legal fights between manufacturers of said products, which is odd because it seems to only happen with the SCAR and not other weapon systems like the AR or Tavor.

YMMV.

 

[STLJO]

Yea, this is sort of the response that I anticipated. If it was ever really an issue it would have been addressed by FN at the development label. To be honest I know little about SCARs other than I enjoy the heck out of shooting it and it's a badass rifle. That's why I am asking all the dumb questions

 

[JonM]

not sure metal in that location is a great idea. you have the mass of the bolt carrier slamming in back there i would rather at some distant future extreme round count have that poly plate break than damage my reciever from soaking that recoil impulse at the attachment points.

just because something is made of pladtic does not mean its inferior to a stronger material in a given application.

its why im not using a metal folding stock release button. i would rather buy a new plastic button than a much more pricey end plate.

i do not see the plastic as an issue unless your going to be buttstroking fools with the rifle. if i was going to primarily use it as a 2600$ club i might reinforce the end bits.

 

[RHINOWSO]

I've only put just shy of 3000rds through my 17 and no ill effects on the polymer parts - hardly a torture test but I don't baby the weapon. I've got around 1K & a year without cleaning it, only lubed it occasionally during that time. Never skipped a beat period.

In the end I think people need to judge their own needs before buying VLTOR/Stryker/Handl/Cav/PMM/Tangodown/whatever the heck widget. They all have uses and its humorous to see the train of fanboys of any product march along saying it's the best thing since sliced bread, then you look at the rifle pics they post and it's obviously never been shot, it's just an expensive barbie they'll be selling a 6 months for whatever the coolest thing is then.

Personally I abhor change for changes sake. A product has to give me something I want from an operating standpoint for me to buy it and use it. For example, I've tried several CHs and in the end Stryker's EACH can't be beat FOR ME. I haven't spent a dime on Handl, mostly since two products I've considered (their stock latch button and new rail) are overpriced IMO. But they are certainly a product I look at, however not really getting an explanation for what benefit it is all supposed to give you is a detractor for me. And all the other reputable companies get looked at and I recently pulled the trigger on a KineticDG rail for my 17 - I look at and considered many other options (MI, Handl, etc) but the MREX seemed to have the attributes I wanted.

Off the soapbox, YMMV.

 

[tejasmtb]

I ordered one to see if there was a difference in felt recoil as they claim. I plan to put some rounds down range this week and I'll do a comparison test with a stock latch side by side for reference and report back my findings.

 

[Umassot50]

an 8 year old girl could shoot these .308' how can they claim it needs recoil reduction.

 

[RHINOWSO]

One thing I could do with out is the BOLD ALL CAP WE MADE THIS $HIT on EVERYTHING from several manufacturers lately.

I understand branding, but damn it's f-ing obnoxious lately.

 

[tejasmtb]

One thing I could do with out is the BOLD ALL CAP WE MADE THIS $HIT on EVERYTHING from several manufacturers lately.

I understand branding, but damn it's f-ing obnoxious lately.

Yea I could do without the Giant name smeared across the side. I'll run some rounds through it this weekend and report back findings in comparison to the stock hinge.