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Discussion starter · #21 ·
As a side note......if you remove too much material from the grip tang, you can shim back the "removed" depth with metal washer(s). Place them between the grip tang and grip and tighten down the screw. :?
 
MOUNT-N-SLOT said:
devilmoon said:
i refuse i take any files or a dremel to the lower on my scar so to get my miad onto my scar i only modified the grip and it still fit decent. I had to modify the backstrap and the depth of the inside of the grip but it works fine. Ill post pictures up when I get a chance, but I think I'll do the backdrop back strap again with the b3 because I accidently made the sides a little flatter, the contour sits not need to be changed just the inside area.
I agre with you!

IWC Team milled 0.100" from the flat inside a MOE HG and then used a Dremel with a Sanding Wheel to shape the tang. Now the MOE grip fits perfectly.

I'll post a pic in a few days.

MOUNT-N-SLOT
Pictures Please! :p
 
So.... I wanted a better grip (mostly because I love having the storage) but I was unwilling to cut on a $2400 rifle. However, cutting on a grip is no problem. I figured that even if I butcher it a bit who cares. Below are some pics of how I modified the inside of an MOE grip using a dremmel with one of their high speed cutters.

In the first pic you can see the high speed cutter as it would be placed while cutting. I took a little at a time off until it fit. Note that since the cutting bit is round you will have to cut a little in front and behind the slant to make sure it is properly hollowed out. None of this is visible when mounted.

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Here is a pic of all the grinding work I did. Note that this was my first attempt. I am happy with it but its not perfect. I ground a little to much on the back strap portion at places.

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Here is a pic of it mounted. Fits nice and snug though you can see where I took to much off the back strap.

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Discussion starter · #26 ·
I too originally didn't want to "mod" the lower and went the "grip mod" route. It fit just like yours. For me, the grip interface area was just not thick enough for my liking. I didn't want to be in the field and have to one hand my rifle with all the other stuff (i.e. light, bipod, etc.) on and have it snap off at the grip screw area. Knowing my luck, it would happen.

I'm glad it works for you. Thanks for posting pics. This will give folks some great ideas on what to do and what is needed. :?
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
This mod is not for everyone.
Seems that FN has still not made the correction to the tang. :th_tsk:

However, TD has released their pistol grips to fit the new tang, if you like that grip profile.

FWIW......I applaud all who mod their sticks as to fit their needs. Takes brass ones for this.
 
I got a new SCAR 16S yesterday, bought the MAGPUL MIAD Grip. It fits great with the backstrap that does not curve around the body of the rifle. The biggest problem I had was figuring out how to remove the "bolt" down inside the handle. I finally got it moving with a ratchet but could not get it out. Turns out it takes a large Allen/Hex wrench, hard to see even with a good flashlight. Fortunately I had just bought a 43 pc Kobalt set on sale at Lowes. It takes a long one to reach down into the handle. Not sure if FN or MAGPUL may have made changes. I imagine I would have to alter the straps that curve around the body of the rifle but the frame of the rifle curves there anyway. I'm not sure what using one of those curved straps would accomplish unless someone with larger hands might prefer the grip/frame joining point to be a little thicker. My hands are liking the MAID Grip with the plane rear strap and it seems to fit well out of the box.
 
SCAR 16 with MIAD install

Here is my finished MIAD. I did grind down my lower by about 1/16th inch though to get the gaps to fit perfectly (the MOE grip requires about an 1/8 inch). The back strap was obviously ground down as well, but looks good. I still need to grind down the sharp corners that stick out by the trigger guard - apparently the SCAR trigger guard is not as wide as on an AR.

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Unfortunately I do not. I long ago sold my Hogues when the MIADs came out. The Hogue would fit like the A2 along the backstrap of the SCAR. Without one, I can't say for certain.

FYI-there is a company that makes a hogged out Tan Hogue grip that fits the existing oversized Scar grip tang. It goes for $50 IIRC.
Desert Dog has them for $39. Ouch, thats twice the price as a standard Hogue but I think I'll take that option rather than go whittling on my grip tang.
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Every time I see pics like yours GoldenGun showing a nice clean job it really makes me want to tackle this. I've gotten used to the A2 grip, but part of me always wonders about that MIAD.

Does anyone have precise measurements of an in-spec grip tang for someone like me who doesn't own an AR?
 
Discussion starter · #34 · (Edited)
e0603,
It's the "A2" grip tang from Colt. There should be a TMP/TPP of the tang, since it's public info. Ergo has released a Scar specific grip in black and FDE. Make sure you order the correct ones as the Scar ones have a different SKU.

PM me your address. I can cut out a template from my Colt and send it to you. Or I can scan it and email you and you can cut it out. :biggrin:

It's a really easy mod, if you go slow and take your time. You shouldn't have to "get use" to your equipment, mod it to your needs.
 
I cut a template from a Palmetto Lower I had sitting around out of two post it notes. I duct taped around the spots I wanted to watch and hit it with a plastic grinding wheel on the dremel. When I got about 2mm away from where I wanted to be. I switched over to the plastic medium cut file. I then switched to some modeling sandpaper. You tell me how it turned out.

Scared sh!tless to do it, but super happy I did it!

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Thanks DOE!
 
Discussion starter · #37 ·
I cut a template from a Palmetto Lower I had sitting around out of two post it notes. I duct taped around the spots I wanted to watch and hit it with a plastic grinding wheel on the dremel. When I got about 2mm away from where I wanted to be. I switched over to the plastic medium cut file. I then switched to some modeling sandpaper. You tell me how it turned out.

Scared sh!tless to do it, but super happy I did it!

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Thanks DOE!
Outstanding! No guts people, no glory!
 
You have to remove very little to get the 'grip' part of the MIAD to fit. I had my misgivings too, but it was super easy. I just lightly touched the scar's lower to a bench grinding wheel and wa-la, the MIAD slipped right on. Highly recommend this mod. My next thought might be to try a bcm battlegrip due to its sharper angle.
 
I did it. Basically just take off 1/8 from scar level from bottom. No need to measure with previous AR. Practice first with the opposite one you do not want and it will go easy. If you are using a dremel, use the lowest setting, grab a coffee and take your time. To remove the rind use your finger nails. Make sure not to slip UP AND AROUND the other end as I did, a nice scrap but hell, its a gun and on the right side of the gun so you cant see it unless you are looking for it. The edges will become VERY brittle. Face it, it will NOT fit perfect where beaver tail is, at least I had quit ahead. I have about a 1/16 inch gap but it is nothing to worry about and even notice unless you are looking. Lets face it, the A2 grip blows and the MIAD is really a nice update. Conservatives can store batteries and liberals can store medical marijuana in the grip :lol:
 
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