[Turbozag]

Withdrawn, or banned.

I've heard ugly rumors...

 

[Promoted Pawn]

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1784

Check that link out. It is the language of a bill to ban the Five Seven.
Apparently a nearly identical bill was on the floor a year or two ago but it wasn't passed.
I don't think this one will pass either.

Shouldn't this be posted in the Five Seven section?

 

[ShipWreck]

Shouldn't this be posted in the Five Seven section?

I just moved it :idea: :idea:

 

[Promoted Pawn]

Always on the ball Ship.

Turbozog, you tryin' to up your buddies sales? :wink:
What ever came of that anyway?
I would buy another, if the price was right.

 

[Axiom]

This seems to come up periodically. If it starts showing up on crime scenes, it might.

 

[Turbozag]

There is a pending Bill.

I heard something today about them only being legal in California until August 8th.....?

 

[FoxFour]

This seems to come up periodically. If it starts showing up on crime scenes, it might.

It already has. One incident and it has caused a little stir.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5367819

 

[Axiom]

This seems to come up periodically. If it starts showing up on crime scenes, it might.

It already has. One incident and it has caused a little stir.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5367819

I know about that one. I was referring to any other ones that might also come up. If it becomes a trend.

 

[FoxFour]

I don't think it will become a trend, most likely the media will make it a trend by harping on the next one. Certain people in law enforcement are worried about the armor piercing aspect of this gun, what about the bad guys that carry .45's, shoot, the officer in the vest and the bullet knocks him down. Bad guy fires another shot, this time in a more critical area.

 

[Randy]

I am surprised it hasn't been banned already, with all the misinformation and hype surrounding it.

BTW - bullets won't knock people down.

Randy

 

[Turbozag]

I was told "it's a done deal, and FN knows it"..

I also heard they will no longer be legal to bring into California after August 8th...

 

[tqtran]

I doubt its a "done deal" since they are releasing two different FiveseveN variants this summer(July/Aug).
No company would intruduce new products so that it can be quickly withdrawn. That would be a major cost/lose.

 

[Turbozag]

It's not being withdrawn.

It going to be banned by our US Congress.

See the link to the Bill above.

H.R. 1784: To protect the Nation's law enforcement officers by banning the Five-seveN Pistol and 5.7 x 28mm SS190 and SS192 cartridges, testing handguns and ammunition for capability to penetrate body armor, and prohibiting the manufacture, importation, sale, or purchase of such handguns or ammunition by civilians.

 

[Esteves]

User banned and ALL posts removed

 

[tgr934x4]

Same old crap

What? You thought after the sunset of the crime bill they were going to stop ? Think again ! They want all of our weapons, so we have no ability to fight back and they can make us do what ever they want. Except now gun rights advocates are watching them ! So, I guess we all will half to wait and see !

 

[tgr934x4]

Spoken like a true liberal

It's not being withdrawn.

It going to be banned by our US Congress.

See the link to the Bill above.

H.R. 1784: To protect the Nation's law enforcement officers by banning the Five-seveN Pistol and 5.7 x 28mm SS190 and SS192 cartridges, testing handguns and ammunition for capability to penetrate body armor, and prohibiting the manufacture, importation, sale, or purchase of such handguns or ammunition by civilians.

This is spoken like a true liberal ! Do your research before assuming certain things ! The ss190 and ss192 along with all other military penetrave calibers are a restricted purchase and are not shippable to the U.S. This legislation is another feel good act by people who have not researched the facts before freaking out ! Go to the FN and look for yourself the only un-restricted ammo is the ss195 and the ss197, which by the way were developed for civilian use. So, this is a another un-informed rant with no base in fact ! I love gun grabbers, they always make themselves look stupid ! When will the public quite watching the libb news media and do some research for themselves?

 

[Orbital]

190 and 192 are restricted by FN, they don't meet the criteria of armor piercing.

 

[tqtran]

Re: Spoken like a true liberal

Do your research before assuming certain things ! The ss190 and ss192 ... are a restricted purchase and are not shippable to the U.S.

Sorry to break the news to you but SS190 was never stopped from being imported into the US. Its still being shipped to this day.
It is restricted for Dept/Agency purchase but that doesn't mean its "not shippable to the U.S."

Also, SS192 was never labled "Restricted" by FN or ATF. It was just taken off the market and replaced with SS195.
Its kind of like GM stop making the Cavilier and renaming it the Cobalt.

 

[jmz5]

Re: Spoken like a true liberal

Do your research before assuming certain things !

Yes, tgr934x4, please do.

 

[Orbital]

oops, I was thinking of 193 not 192. (the subsonic)