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Read around and tried to put together a list. Am I on the right track here?

Frog Lube Frog Tube
http://www.amazon.com/Frog-Lube-Tub..._sim_sg_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1BWYEM1BWWYAC899BXWA

J Dewey .30 Caliber Nylon Coated Rod - 36 inches
https://www.deweyrods.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_60_67&product_id=76

J Dewey .30 Caliber Nylon Rifle Brush
https://www.deweyrods.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&path=93_95_108&product_id=292

2" Round Patches
https://www.deweyrods.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&path=122&product_id=314

Do I need a muzzle guide?

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You don't need a muzzle guide. I would use a GI sectioned rod so you can pack it with you. You don't need a 36 inch rod for a 16" barrel, unless you desire it for other rifles.

Any special reason you are buying Frog Lube? I personally think it is over priced and over hyped. Not terrible but not the greatest. I use SLIP-2000 FWIW.

Here is a corrosion test someone did which is interesting: http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?103924-Corrosion-Testing-(New-Pics-5-08-12)/page3

You are looking for a good lubricant AND protectant.
 

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Break Free CLP is fine and it is military issue. :)

Used it plenty of times. It isn't the best solvent but none of the CLP products are. For heavy fouling I use Hoppes 9. If I had to use just one product CLP wouldn't be a bad choice.
 

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Alright, so I'll swap down to a 24" rod.
And no particular reason for choosing Frog Lube, I'm just new and don't know too much hahaha.
Which Slip 2000 product are you talking about? There's a few variants.
If I wanted an all-in-one type of solution, which product should I choose? Break Free?
 

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Also, I see that depending on the company, they have grease(solid) and oil(fluid) types of products. What does each do? Do they serve different purposes?
 

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Read around and tried to put together a list. Am I on the right track here?

Frog Lube Frog Tube
Amazon.com: Frog Lube Frog Tube 5Pc Kit (1/1.5/4Oz): Sports & Outdoors

J Dewey .30 Caliber Nylon Coated Rod - 36 inches
https://www.deweyrods.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_60_67&product_id=76

J Dewey .30 Caliber Nylon Rifle Brush
https://www.deweyrods.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&path=93_95_108&product_id=292

2" Round Patches
https://www.deweyrods.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&path=122&product_id=314

Do I need a muzzle guide?

Thank you!
Never clean from the muzzle end if you can avoid it! I use the Deweys rod and a Synclair chamber/bore guide that is made for a Kimber 84 30cal. Clean it from the chamber end and I use Synclairs brass centered bronze brushes with the Magic Mix (2/3rds Shooter's Choice and 1/3rd Kroil. Benchrest secret mix many have used for years.) Works like a charm. Then your 2" round patches also Synclairs - no lint left by those.) If copper fouled horribly switch to Barnes Copper solvent C10. That my take on this question. Good shooting to you!!
 
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Are you not supposed to put the rod in from the muzzle? Will the handle fit coming in from the chamber end?
How often do you need to clean the gas piston?
 

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The gas piston gets cleaned as often as you like. But I think manual says clean the whole barrel assembly every 1K rounds, 400 if suppressed. I clean mine every time I go out.
 

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I hate sectioned rods, currently using tipton carbon fiber rods (30 cal for my 308, 22 cal for lower calibers), and I use bore guides. Helps decrease my odds of screwing stuff up.

For cleaning, I like Weapons Shield CLP and will use it for some lube on some spots.
 

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To the OP:

Dewey coated rods are great.

Also check this out:

I switched from my Hoppes to MilCom and its been very positive.
Bottom line though is any lube is better than none.
 

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I would stick with the longer rod. While the barrel is 16 the reciever adds a bit more length. 24 is a bit short. You go at it from the rear chamber end push the brush out the front. Remove brush pull rod out reattach and repeat. Pulling the brush back through isnt great for the barrel as it can get copper ridges to stand up. Like petting a cat or dog the wrong way. Fouling will build up faster if you run a brush from muzzle to chamber. Brush only one way. Patches go one way. Same way thebullet goes out. Barrels are one way streets

I use cleaning jags to push patches.

Clp is great for general cleaning. Hoppes9 for really gunky jobs. Im not convinced frog lube is a good product since it takes extra effort to remove it. It looks like veggie based product to me. I wouldnt use crisco on a gun.
 

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Not if you don't have to. On the SCAR you don't. Some guns you don't have much of a choice.

Going from the muzzle end you can damage the crown over time or by accident when cleaning. Best to come from the chamber end if you can.
Even on things like lever guns you run from chamber to muzzle one way. Rod goes in muzzle attach brush in chamber pull it out. One way only on any gun. For patches you have to use a patch loop for such things
 

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I'm very surprised that no one has suggested a Bore Snake? It allows for cleaning from the chamber-end of the rifle, and does the job on a patch and a brush all in one. I've got one in every caliber I own, and have been very happy.

FYI, for CLP and cleaner, I've had very good success with M-Pro 7. GunZilla is also good, although pricey and hard to find. Breakfree CLP is also very good, cheap, and easy to find--just not quite as good as M-Pro 7 IMHO.
 
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