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As always a very interesting test Buffman! However how do u explain on avg. getting 220 fps more than was claimed? If the ammo does what u got, they would list it as such (High selling point) I usually do get within 35-50 fps as listed but never got a difference of 220 fps! Once I use the "Conversion Tables" I always have been within the listed fps ranges, but when I don't use them than depending on many variables I can easily be off by 100 fps + or - depending mainly on dist. from target, outside temps,elevation, humidity, barometric pressure etc....

Something here doesn't add up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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As always a very interesting test Buffman! However how do u explain on avg. getting 220 fps more than was claimed? If the ammo does what u got, they would list it as such (High selling point) I usually do get within 35-50 fps as listed but never got a difference of 220 fps! Once I use the "Conversion Tables" I always have been within the listed fps ranges, but when I don't use them than depending on many variables I can easily be off by 100 fps + or - depending mainly on dist. from target, outside temps,elevation, humidity, barometric pressure etc....

Something here doesn't add up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Liberty doesn't list a barrel length. They also state that velocity is > 2000FPS. They could have used a 4" barrel for all we know.

Weight: 50gr

Velocity: >2000 FPS

Kinetic Energy: >450 FPE
http://libertyammunition.com/product/civil-defense-9mm
My 5.7 ammo I tested that day was right in line with what it's supposed to be, so nothing wrong with the chrono :)
 

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I also have the Liberty ammo in 9mm & .40 but sadly just have not had time to do any velocity tests lately! However after watching test form other known and respected persons, it seems to be the consensus Liberty uses a 4" barrel since then these folks have got the 2K fps listed.

U used a 5" barrel which would account for a higher velocity however a 1' barrel length would not increase it by 220 fps but maybe 50-75 fps at best!
 

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I also have the Liberty ammo in 9mm & .40 but sadly just have not had time to do any velocity tests lately! However after watching test form other known and respected persons, it seems to be the consensus Liberty uses a 4" barrel since then these folks have got the 2K fps listed.

U used a 5" barrel which would account for a higher velocity however a 1' barrel length would not increase it by 220 fps but maybe 50-75 fps at best!
There's a lot of powder in there 7.9gr. Extra barrel, more burn time. Gun Runnerz got 2200 fps as well:


Most of the videos online are of the older stuff from when it first came out. You can continue to doubt, but they got similar results.
 

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So it does seem this ammo in general out of 5" barrel is 20% hotter than advertised, since most likely it is out of a 4" one, it seems to be some of the best new ammo available. Still have to laugh about all the HOOPLA about the RIP ammo crap which would make a huge flesh wound when it hits and that was it!
Sadly the Liberty ammo is not for sale in Cal. and many other places.
 

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cap 10, I put that up a long time ago, error is the Tok ammo is only 85 gr not 95 gr. all tok ammo is 85 or 86 gr!
 

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Son bought some for his 45 and shot a mag through yesterday at a steel silhouette. First thing I noticed was the plate did not move all that much, second was the round left a copper colored mark on the plate and disintegrated, third was he said the recoil was
notable (G30S).


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Son bought some for his 45 and shot a mag through yesterday at a steel silhouette. First thing I noticed was the plate did not move all that much, second was the round left a copper colored mark on the plate and disintegrated, third was he said the recoil was
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They 1st two I would expect, on recoil it says greatly reduced!
 
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