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LONDON - The tabloids are calling them the "Tarantino murders."

The two young Frenchmen, promising research students at one of Britain's top universities, had been bound and stabbed repeatedly in the head, neck and torso before their bodies were doused in fuel and set alight. A senior Scotland Yard detective said their wounds were the worst he had ever seen.

Even for a city assailed almost daily by reports of knife crime, this was shocking — a seemingly burst of brutality reminiscent of a Quentin Tarantino film. No one has been charged in the June 29 deaths that horrified people on both sides of the English Channel, and prompted some French journalists to depict London as a city of mean streets, rampant crime and "no-go" areas.

On Tuesday, bouquets of flowers lay behind police tape outside the brick townhouse where Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez, both 23, were killed. One note expressed hope that they had not died in vain: "Maybe something will be done," it said.

Detectives were questioning a 33-year-old man who surrendered Monday after police released a description of a man seen running from the area on the day of the killings. The suspect, who has not been named, was treated in hospital for burns after this arrest.

Detective Chief Inspector Mick Duthie of London's Metropolitan Police said the students were subjected to "a frenzied, horrible, horrific attack."

"I have never seen injuries like this throughout my career," he said.

Police have found no obvious motive for the killings. They say the two bioengineering students, who were on three-month research placements at London's Imperial College, were talented academics and had not been involved in criminal activity.

'Way over the top'
On June 29, Ferez visited Bonomo's apartment in the New Cross area of south London. That night, neighbors called police when they heard what sounded like an explosion and saw the ground-floor apartment ablaze. Police initially thought the men died in the fire, but autopsies showed they had been stabbed to death. Bonomo had almost 200 wounds, Ferez almost 50. Police believe some of the injuries were inflicted after they died.

One theory is that the men were victims of mistaken identity, or of a robbery gone wrong. Police are trying to trace two Sony PlayStation consoles they believe were taken from the apartment. They are also investigating possible links between the deaths and a robbery at the apartment a week earlier in which a laptop computer was stolen.

David Nias, a clinical psychologist who has studied criminals, said the level of violence was "way over the top for a burglary" and pointed to a sadistic killer who may have murdered before.

"A first offender would be more restrained or inhibited," he said. "These sort of incidents are very, very rare. That's what makes it difficult for the police."

'Never go south'
In France, news reports depicted the district where the men were killed as drug-ridden and violent.

"Never go south of the river. In London, among the large French community, the adage is well-known," read the opening lines of an article in France-Soir. "But considering the exorbitant price of rents in the British capital, there are numerous students who, like Laurent, settle on the other side of the Thames."

France-Soir quoted a young Frenchman who said he never goes out after dark in New Cross. Le Parisien newspaper described the neighborhood as dominated by refugees and students, and said it was adjacent to drug- and gang-infested areas.

Residents say such descriptions are misleading. Bonomo rented a ground-floor apartment on a quiet cul-de-sac in a suburban area that contains Victorian, 1930s and modern architecture. A mix of public housing and private homes, it is not the best neighborhood in London — nor the worst.

'I don't feel scared'
On New Cross' busy, run-down main street, locals said the area's large Afro-Caribbean population coexists mostly peaceably with thousands of students from the University of London's Goldsmith's College.

"It's a bit of a weird mix," said Laura Kenny, a bartender at the Amersham Arms, a pub and music venue that attracts hipsters from across London. "But there's no sense of antagonism.

"I live in New Cross and I don't feel scared walking down the street."

London is undergoing a period of soul-searching about violence because of knife crimes involving young people. Nineteen teenagers have been killed in the city this year, many of them stabbed by other young people.

The killings of Ferez and Bonomo don't fit that pattern, in part because they are foreigners and because of the level of violence.

"We're all shaken up," said David Chrisp, who lives on the street where the men died. "This is a quiet area. There's a few people who have complained about robberies and break-ins, but that's life, isn't it?"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25589256/
 

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Yes, the Queen has been a victim as too! Well a victim of bad humor anyway:lol:


The Queen and Princess Anne are out for a drive in one of the Queen's Range Rovers. Suddenly some armed robbers leap out of the bushes and stop the car. "Give us the money", they shout at the Queen.
"But I'm the Queen of England, I have no need for money."
"Oh, sh_t", says the leader of the armed band, and turns to Anne. "Give us yer jewels."
"But I don't wear my jewels all the time, only on state occasions."
The armed robbers look fed up, when suddenly they hear the sound of wailing sirens approaching. "Quick, out of the car! We'll have the Range Rover at least," and with that the robbers drive off.
As the Queen and Anne are waiting for the Police to get there, Anne turns to the Queen, "What did you do with all the cash you had? You're always loaded."
"Ah," says the Queen, "I saw the robbers and in the few seconds before they got to the car I rolled up my notes and tucked them into that little place that only women have." Reaching under her skirt, she produces several thousand pounds in notes. "And what did you do with your jewels?
You always wear lots of jewellery, my dear." The Queen says to Anne. "Well, like you, in those few seconds before the robbers got to the car, I slipped off my rings, necklaces and tiara, and like you, slipped them into that little place that only women have." Reaching down she plucksout her jewellery.
They both sit quietly for a few minutes, before the Queen turns to Anne "You know, if Fergie had been with us, we could still have the Range Rover."
 

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Knife control in Britain

July 08, 2008
Knife control in Britain
Richard Baehr

A friend visiting London tells us about the obvious and inevitable lesson being learned about gun control efforts. Once again. It isn't the weapon, it is the person who is the problem. He writes:

Stabbings dominate the news here. If you replaced stabbings with shootings, I would have thought I was in Chicago.

Actually, London now has a much higher crime rate than most major American cities. Take out murder, and it is higher in all virtually every other category.

So the Brits are now actually pushing knife control as a solution to the problem of violent impulses among their populace.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/knife_control_in_britain.html
 

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I loved this comment made on the article.

"You know, England, if you were to ban solid food, not only would be no need for knives, there would be no need for forks with their dangerous, pointy tines! You could also mandate the removal of everyone's teeth so that there will be no biting! And think of the money you'll save on your universal health care! And imagine Prince Charles giving a speech! Oh wait, never mind...he's an elite.
Spoons, gums, and applesauce! For a safe England!"
 

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When does common sense kick in? It has to at some point doesn't it? Sooner or later the public at large has to scratch it's head and say "uh.. this approach ain't werkin', gimmy my knife and gun back."

Prisoners make knives in jail out of just about anything and commit murder with them. How can you expect to de-blade the public?
 

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One time I heard a comment that a prision is the most dagerous place in America where not even the guards have guns but one of the most secure places in the US is a gun show where everyone has a gun.
 
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