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Looks like several bills from 2013 and some new ones from 2014 have made it through committee and passed votes in the house:

Michigan Legislature - Daily Introduced, Passed by Chamber, and Enrolled Bills

HB 4155 of 2013
Weapons; licensing; certain firearm licensing information; exempt from freedom of information act. Amends secs. 2 & 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422 & 28.422a). TIE BAR WITH: HB 5324'14, HB 5325'14, HB 5326'14, HB 5327'14, HB 5328'14, HB 5329'14, SB 0049'13
HB 4811 of 2013
Military affairs; other; military family relief fund; revised procedure for application and disbursement of funds. Amends secs. 2 & 4 of 2004 PA 363 (MCL 35.1212 & 35.1214).
HB 5085 of 2013
Weapons; safety and training; requirement for physical presence of parent or guardian during use of a pistol by a minor; provide exception to certain individuals. Amends sec. 2 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422).
HB 5091 of 2013
Weapons; other; brandishing a firearm; exempt the carrying of a firearm that is holstered or carried on a sling. Amends sec. 234e of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.234e). TIE BAR WITH: HB 5092'13
HB 5092 of 2013
Weapons; other; definition of brandish; provide for. Amends sec. 222 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.222). TIE BAR WITH: HB 5091'13
SB 0610 of 2013
Weapons; firearms; manufacture, possession, or transfer of certain short-barreled shotguns or rifles; allow. Amends sec. 224b of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224b).
HB 5324 of 2014
Weapons; licensing; firearm records; clarify exemption under the freedom of information act. Amends sec. 2b of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422b). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4155'13, HB 5325'14, HB 5326'14, HB 5327'14, HB 5328'14, HB 5329'14, SB 0049'13
HB 5325 of 2014
Weapons; licensing; definition of firearms records; provide for. Amends sec. 1 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4155'13, HB 5324'14, HB 5326'14, HB 5327'14, HB 5328'14, HB 5329'14, SB 0049'13
HB 5326 of 2014
Weapons; licensing; firearms records; clarify what records are exempt under the freedom of information act. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4155'13, HB 5324'14, HB 5325'14, HB 5327'14, HB 5328'14, HB 5329'14, SB 0049'13
HB 5327 of 2014
Weapons; licensing; firearms records; exempt from freedom of information act and provide for disclosure only under certain circumstances. Amends 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421 - 28.435) by adding sec. 1b. TIE BAR WITH: HB 4155'13, HB 5324'14, HB 5325'14, HB 5326'14, HB 5328'14, HB 5329'14, SB 0049'13
HB 5328 of 2014
Weapons; licensing; firearm records; clarify what is exempt under the freedom of information act. Amends sec. 5b of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425b). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4155'13, HB 5324'14, HB 5325'14, HB 5326'14, HB 5327'14, HB 5329'14, SB 0049'13
SB 0759 of 2014
Natural resources; hunting; prohibition on person holding a fur dealer's license from holding a license to trap beaver; remove. Amends sec. 42501 of 1994 PA 451 (MCL 324.42501).
 

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be safe out there and stay warm. Fire a few mags off for me please and see you Monday!!!

I have my SBR forms printed, and my fingers crossed! I'm gonna be heading to camp for the weekend, we'll make a sacrificial offering of a few thousand rounds and empty some AMMOCANS in hope it'll please the powers that be... :x
 

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From the NRA-ILA:

Michigan: Bill to Repeal State Ban on Short-Barreled Rifles and Shotguns Sent to Governor

Today, the Michigan Senate concurred with the House changes to*Senate Bill 610*by a*36-2 vote.* This bill will now be sent to Governor Rick Snyder (R) for his*expected*signature.* SB 610, sponsored by state Senator Michael Green (R-31), will repeal Michigan’s ban on the private ownership of short-barreled rifles and shotguns. *Short-barreled rifles and shotguns are already strictly regulated under the National Firearms Act, requiring their buyers to undergo a background check, pay a $200 federal tax and register these firearms with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. *

SB 610, which passed in the Michigan House of Representatives by a*103-6 vote*last week, would conform Michigan law to federal law and align Michigan with a large majority of states that already allow their residents to possess these firearms.**This legislation is awaiting enrollment and presentation to Governor Snyder, where his signature would*make it law.
 

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Wish Mike Green would bring back the bill opening up pistol free zones for another go. Last time, it went to the governor's desk the week after Sandy Hook. Bad timing.
 

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So did the gov ok sbr yet?
I haven't seen anything yet HillBillyJim, hopefully he doesn't have a hangup on verbiage like with the pistol free zones bill. The issue he had there, as he told me, was that it still allowed the CPL holder to open carry at schools without the additional certifications that would have been required to conceal in pistol free. At least I think that's what it was. I'll have to check my emails at work to see what his response was to my inquiries...
 

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Wish Mike Green would bring back the bill opening up pistol free zones for another go. Last time, it went to the governor's desk the week after Sandy Hook. Bad timing.
So I dug through the email archives and found the response I received from Governor Snyder regarding Mike Green's bill, Senate Bill 59, and my request that he sign it. Here is his response, modified only my name:

Dear arcticzale:

Thank you for your recent correspondence sent to my office.

Senate Bill 59 offered a number of wise and necessary reforms toMichigan's weapon laws. The bill provided for an enhanced ConcealedPistol License that would require additional training. It wouldstreamline the Concealed Pistol License process by eliminating county gunboards and vesting issuing authority with the sheriff.

More important, SB 59 looked at a feature of Michigan law that needs fixing -Michigan's open carry law. The law currently prohibits a concealed pistollicense holder from carrying a concealed weapon in a "pistol-freezone," which includes a school, a day care center, a sport stadium, a bar,a church, a hospital, an entertainment facility, and a college classroom ordormitory. Ironically, current law does not prevent a concealed pistollicense holder from openly carrying a pistol at these places.

My original hope with Senate Bill 59 was to reach a compromise by prohibitingthe open carry of pistols in the above-mentioned pistol-free zones in exchangefor lifting the prohibition on the carrying of concealed weapons in these zones-- subject to the approval of the public or private property owners.

The resulting bill only went part way in achieving that goal. The billwould allow private property owners to prohibit a person from carrying aconcealed pistol on their private property. It permits certainuniversities and colleges to adopt an ordinance prohibiting the carrying of aconcealed pistol. Unfortunately, the bill did not allow public schools,day care centers, or public hospitals to prohibit persons from carryingconcealed weapons on their premises. For that reason, I have vetoedSenate Bill 59.

I believe it is important that these public institutions have clear legalauthority to ban weapons from their premises: Each is entrusted with the careof a vulnerable population and should have the authority to determine whetherits mission would be enhanced by the addition of concealed weapons.

Thisconversation is likely to continue over the coming months. I hope you'llcontinue to share your comments and concerns with my office.

Sincerely,

Rick Snyder
Governor
 

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So how does this work first apply when you are approved then get them circumcised? And we apply on our own not a dealer? Can apply for scar and whenever I'm approved then hunt for a new barrel?
 

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If you're making an SBR, you'll need to do a Form 1 (which will be on your own, no dealer). You will need to know the caliber and barrel length etc. of what you WILL be getting and all of your info for what you'll engrave, or get engraved on the firearm. Once your stamp is approved you can then get the short barrel or take possession of the short barrel. I wouldn't want to have the short barrel prior to having the approval as you could get busted for intent to make an illegal SBR.
 
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Now if they just get rid of pistol registration and 'gun free zones' (i.e. law abiding citizens must disarm zones, so criminals, you may feel safe to pillage and kill zones)
 

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Arcticzale, I don't want you to feel any less special, but the response you received from the 'tough nerd' is word-for-word lifted from his message to the Senate on Dec. 18, except for the last couple sentences.
 

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Arcticzale, I don't want you to feel any less special, but the response you received from the 'tough nerd' is word-for-word lifted from his message to the Senate on Dec. 18, except for the last couple sentences.
No harm done here, not the first form letter I've received from a politician. And I don't base my self-worth by posts I put on the internet. :icon_mrgreen:
 
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