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Hi Guys,
I wanted to sharw with you some considerations I made about the legal environment concering guns, in particular SBR's between the US and my country (Switzerland).
As I understand, your 2nd amendment gives you the basic right on federal level to own firearms. I don't know of any other country thast has such a right written in the constitution in such a way. That def. makes 1:0 for the US on gun legislation:shock:
If we dig a bit deeper though, the situation is more nuanced. On a federal level, you are limited by a series of acts that affect machine guns, SBR's, suppressors etc. Ownership - as I understand - of these items is restricted or forbidden altogether, depending on the state. Further state legislation affects also the characteristics of non-NFA items, like magazine capacity or these strange things they make you do to rifles in California for instance.
Over here on the other hand, we do not have a consitutional right to own weapons. It is more of a privilege. Gun ownership is more restricted, but has less grey areas compared to the US.
In the US, regardless of the state, SBRs would fall under NFA rules. Acquiring such an item, would have you do a lot of paperwork - either via the police or via trust. In terms of time and money, it would be 200 USD tax + X weeks of waiting time.
Once you acquire the gun - correct me if I'm wrong - you are limited in trasporting it cross-state and selling it may also be a concern.
Over here, to buy any type of semi-auto gun, you are issued a "buying permit". This costs 70.- CHF and usually takes 10 working days to be issued. It is a fairly simple PDF where you need to give information about your personal data and what "kind" of weapon you want to buy. you do not need to dive any reason for why you are buying it. Stating "223 rifle" or "rifle" is usually enough.
Each buying permit has 3 slots (don't ask me why not 2 or 4...), so if you play it smart the 70.- fee is can be split on 3 guns. The buying permit is issued after a background check, but must be issued if you are not a criminal in the database of the cantonal Police (our cantons are your states).
So let's assume that I feel like buying a CQC SCAR, a P90 SBR and because I'm really rich - also a SIG 553.
Over here, regardless where I live, I submit a request to be issued a buying permit. Pay 70.-, wait 2 weeks, and get the permit for 3 rifles. The day after I go to the shop, hand in the permit, PAY, and go home happy with 3 SBRs. Selling or transporing these guns? No Problem! (Yeah I get it, my country is smaller than NYC....)
In the US, depending on where I live, i might not be allowed to buy and own these guns. OUCH! In many states you can get them, but you will have to undergo a process which is more expensive and more time-consumuing.
Coming back to the title... do you agree that we are more "free" here with regard to SBR's
?
The US is a really cool country. But for being the Land of Freedom, as in any other country, there are some odd contradictions!
regards
andy
I wanted to sharw with you some considerations I made about the legal environment concering guns, in particular SBR's between the US and my country (Switzerland).
As I understand, your 2nd amendment gives you the basic right on federal level to own firearms. I don't know of any other country thast has such a right written in the constitution in such a way. That def. makes 1:0 for the US on gun legislation:shock:
If we dig a bit deeper though, the situation is more nuanced. On a federal level, you are limited by a series of acts that affect machine guns, SBR's, suppressors etc. Ownership - as I understand - of these items is restricted or forbidden altogether, depending on the state. Further state legislation affects also the characteristics of non-NFA items, like magazine capacity or these strange things they make you do to rifles in California for instance.
Over here on the other hand, we do not have a consitutional right to own weapons. It is more of a privilege. Gun ownership is more restricted, but has less grey areas compared to the US.
In the US, regardless of the state, SBRs would fall under NFA rules. Acquiring such an item, would have you do a lot of paperwork - either via the police or via trust. In terms of time and money, it would be 200 USD tax + X weeks of waiting time.
Once you acquire the gun - correct me if I'm wrong - you are limited in trasporting it cross-state and selling it may also be a concern.
Over here, to buy any type of semi-auto gun, you are issued a "buying permit". This costs 70.- CHF and usually takes 10 working days to be issued. It is a fairly simple PDF where you need to give information about your personal data and what "kind" of weapon you want to buy. you do not need to dive any reason for why you are buying it. Stating "223 rifle" or "rifle" is usually enough.
Each buying permit has 3 slots (don't ask me why not 2 or 4...), so if you play it smart the 70.- fee is can be split on 3 guns. The buying permit is issued after a background check, but must be issued if you are not a criminal in the database of the cantonal Police (our cantons are your states).
So let's assume that I feel like buying a CQC SCAR, a P90 SBR and because I'm really rich - also a SIG 553.
Over here, regardless where I live, I submit a request to be issued a buying permit. Pay 70.-, wait 2 weeks, and get the permit for 3 rifles. The day after I go to the shop, hand in the permit, PAY, and go home happy with 3 SBRs. Selling or transporing these guns? No Problem! (Yeah I get it, my country is smaller than NYC....)
In the US, depending on where I live, i might not be allowed to buy and own these guns. OUCH! In many states you can get them, but you will have to undergo a process which is more expensive and more time-consumuing.
Coming back to the title... do you agree that we are more "free" here with regard to SBR's
The US is a really cool country. But for being the Land of Freedom, as in any other country, there are some odd contradictions!
regards
andy