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So this would be illegal? Really?
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Actually not a photoshop. All I have is microsoft paint. Yeah, I know, I am still stuck in 1994 in picture editing.
I do not own a pistol with a rail like that. I wonder if people with pistols realize this? Doesn't this still qualify as a pistol even though it has a verticle grip?
Actually not a photoshop. All I have is microsoft paint. Yeah, I know, I am still stuck in 1994 in picture editing.
I do not own a pistol with a rail like that. I wonder if people with pistols realize this? Doesn't this still qualify as a pistol even though it has a verticle grip?
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Yep its illegal If you add a vertical grip to a handgun or pistol as it becomes a NFA weapon, Or better known as AOW (any other weapon) So you would have to do the paper work and send $200 to Uncle Sam for 15 seconds of work on your part. Horizontal grips are legal.....go figure.
I'm sure there are few out there that will out knowledge have done this and will be in for a surprise when they show up at a local range and the safety officer asks them for there paper work, Or worse yet a Police officer.
I'm sure there are few out there that will out knowledge have done this and will be in for a surprise when they show up at a local range and the safety officer asks them for there paper work, Or worse yet a Police officer.
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$5 transfer fee if you purchase from a SOT or transferred to you but as your building it it requires $200 to ATFShipWreck said:
The thing with AOW is who is going to pay $1200 for one when you can build one from a Glock for $500 and a $25 vertical grip.
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These are the guys who can manufacture post sample machine guns. needless to say they follow more stringent ATF guidelines.
http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#firearms
Form1 to manufacture a firearm is available at your local ATF branch as the form is not available right now from the website. you can also call them and they will mail them to you. At this current time I don't own any NFA weapons but if I can recover from Christmas I hope to have the PS90 SBR-ed
These are the guys who can manufacture post sample machine guns. needless to say they follow more stringent ATF guidelines.
http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#firearms
Form1 to manufacture a firearm is available at your local ATF branch as the form is not available right now from the website. you can also call them and they will mail them to you. At this current time I don't own any NFA weapons but if I can recover from Christmas I hope to have the PS90 SBR-ed
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Now don't quote me on this as I heard this like 20 years ago and the ATF changes rulings like there underware, But someone may want to look it up or send a letter to ATF.
As said you can't attach a vertical grip to a handgun but someone once told me that you can attach it to a barrel extension that screws on to the gun as long it (vertical grip) was not attached directly to the firearm. So if this is correct then in theory you could attach the vertical grip the suppressor. The big problem I see with this is if your pulling down you could upset the suppressor and barrel alignment and get baffle strikes. Not a good thing.
As said you can't attach a vertical grip to a handgun but someone once told me that you can attach it to a barrel extension that screws on to the gun as long it (vertical grip) was not attached directly to the firearm. So if this is correct then in theory you could attach the vertical grip the suppressor. The big problem I see with this is if your pulling down you could upset the suppressor and barrel alignment and get baffle strikes. Not a good thing.
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