[narphenal]

Hello everyone. Decided to start pursuing a SCAR rifle, after years of nothing but ARs. Running short barreled and suppressed begins to become an issue with direct impingement, and I am not a fan of shoe horned piston systems for ARs. I’m not completely unfamiliar with the platform, but am not too versed in the specific details about them.

My biggest complaint was always the lack of aftermarket parts available for them, but I recently stumbled upon a company called Handl which produces loads of cool aftermarket stuff for them, so I am getting ready to pull the trigger on SCAR. Has anyone used their new modular handguard system? It looks pretty killer and is using M-LOK, so it appears to have plenty of potential and be relatively future proof. Hopefully it will also be more ergonomic than the blocky SCAR forearm.
They also make aluminum lowers, which seems like a good idea as a polymer lower has always seemed like asking for trouble, in my opinion, as well as other notable upgrades. GG&G and IWC seem to have some pretty cool stuff as well. Other than that, I can’t really find too many other companies that are producing accessories. I had a friend who owns a few SCARs telling me about some guy named “Sargent USMC”, or something like that, who makes a cool lower and other accessories, but I couldn’t find anything when I searched for him or his company.

What other companies are producing cool accessories. I much prefer to spend my money with American Companies, and try to stick with proven products. That’s why HD is sticking out to me. Seems to be ran by good people, who’ve been doing it for a long time, and have good ideas.

Thanks.

Also, what’s up with the format of the forums? There should be a SCAR general, it is kind of weird having to post between the 16 and 17 forums, when it is my understanding that the two platforms are 80% the same.

 

[jhs27275]

some guy named “Sargent USMC”, or something like that

Stryker Enterprises

And all I can say is brace yourself for what follows. :?

 

[Remark]

There are lots of aftermarket parts for the SCAR. Just start browsing the forum or search for a particular question that you might have. As to quality, customer service, etc you will have to make your own opinion based on what you read and your own past experiences.

The one thing I would advise is to concentrate on your optics, mount, magazines and ammo first. Then after a bit of shooting you will have an idea about where you might want to add on to the SCAR.

 

[akitainu]

Also, what’s up with the format of the forums? There should be a SCAR general, it is kind of weird having to post between the 16 and 17 forums, when it is my understanding that the two platforms are 80% the same.

Welcome to the forum.

This is probably the best place for accessory/aftermarket parts posts: SCAR Accessories, Scopes & Mods

 

[Kev]

This is a great place to get spare parts, mags and anything FN related. They are also a Forum Sponsor and have fantastic customer service.

FN Pro Shop

 

[narphenal]

Stryker Enterprises

And all I can say is brace yourself for what follows. :?

That appears to be the company. Looks like he has some seemingly interesting products. The S.E.A.L. looks good, anyone on here get one yet?

Is there any particular reason or benefit for an angled charging handle over a standard linear one?

Welcome to the forum.

This is probably the best place for accessory/aftermarket parts posts: SCAR Accessories, Scopes & Mods

Definitely start lurking there.

This is a great place to get spare parts, mags and anything FN related. They are also a Forum Sponsor and have fantastic customer service.

FN Pro Shop

Thanks for the link!

 

[wespac78]

The angled charging handle is slightly bigger, giving you better purchase when charging the SCAR. The angle also helps a lot when you have optics mounted on a QD mount. Keeps you from slamming your fingers into the latches of the QD mount.

 

[wespac78]

That appears to be the company. Looks like he has some seemingly interesting products. The S.E.A.L. looks good, anyone on here get one yet?

Is there any particular reason or benefit for an angled charging handle over a standard linear one?


Definitely start lurking there.



Thanks for the link!

I haven't gotten a S.E.A.L lower yet, but I am going to. The Handle Defence lower is kinda hit or miss. I've heard some people say they installed it no problem. I have heard many say they had fit problems. I can say that Stryker Enterprises is synonymous with quality. I would buy the S.E.A.L lower before I bought the Handle Defense lower.

 

[jhs27275]

I recently stumbled upon a company called Handl which produces loads of cool aftermarket stuff.

That’s why HD is sticking out to me. Seems to be ran by good people, who’ve been doing it for a long time, and have good ideas.

Look around the forum and you'll learn more. :?

 

[Smurky]

:welcomesigntb3: to the Forum, can't add much to the other responses. I would start the additions slowly after using the platform, the demand on the funds can be pretty high.

 

[Umassot50]

This thread made me laugh..at least you avoided the web..

 

[narphenal]

I haven't gotten a S.E.A.L lower yet, but I am going to. The Handle Defence lower is kinda hit or miss. I've heard some people say they installed it no problem. I have heard many say they had fit problems. I can say that Stryker Enterprises is synonymous with quality. I would buy the S.E.A.L lower before I bought the Handle Defense lower.

What are the benefits to the S.E.A.L over the Handle Defense?

Are the S.E.A.L's on sale yet? I can't seem to find any third party reviews or anything of that matter.

Look around the forum and you'll learn more. :?

About the company? Are they shady?

I've kind of poked my head around a bit, and the only thing I can find is some issues with one of the early runs on their lowers, but not much else. Then again, I'm not the best internet sleuth.

:welcomesigntb3: to the Forum, can't add much to the other responses. I would start the additions slowly after using the platform, the demand on the funds can be pretty high.

Oh, tell me about it. My wallet is hurting at the thought of jumping into a new weapons platform.

And thanks for the welcome!

 

[FFBos]

I'm new to the SCAR, the Stryker SEAL wins the battle. I don't even own one, but will eventually.

 

[kneedeep]

If you haven't picked up a SCAR 17S yet, you might want to check this one out since you seem to want a fully accessorized one. http://fnforum.net/forums/showpost.php?p=711801

 

[wespac78]

What are the benefits to the S.E.A.L over the Handle Defense?

Are the S.E.A.L's on sale yet? I can't seem to find any third party reviews or anything of that matter.


About the company? Are they shady?

I've kind of poked my head around a bit, and the only thing I can find is some issues with one of the early runs on their lowers, but not much else. Then again, I'm not the best internet sleuth.

Oh, tell me about it. My wallet is hurting at the thought of jumping into a new weapons platform.

And thanks for the welcome!

The S.E.A.L was just released. There won't be many, if any, reviews yet. From my research and my personal dealings with Stryker Enterprises, I'm choosing the S.E.A.L over the Handle Defense. From what I understand Handle Defense is even trying to copy some of the features from the S.E.A.L

 

[STL]

What are the benefits to the S.E.A.L

If you're interested in knowing more about the S.E.A.L., feel free to send an email inquiry referencing your moniker in the subject line through the Stryker Enterprises website.

Thank you.

 

[KameronTKelly]

There are lots of mixed reviews on handl. There have been quite a few complaints about business dealings with them. Some have had no issue. The reason you aren't getting much of an explanation out of anyone is because the topic has been beaten to death countless times and it has become taboo. So basically deal with them at your own risk and do some more homework.

with you being new to the platform I would like to point out that there is nothing wrong with the Scar's polymer trigger module. You dont hear about them cracking or breaking unless you count that time one was dropped from 8 feet high on to concrete multiple times or run over by a truck. The guys that use these rifles as they are intended to be used are doing just fine with the polymer trigger modules from the research that I have done.

This is not to take away from James and what he is bringing to the table with the S.E.A.L. As even he has stated that the polymer module is fine. He designed the aluminum module to facilitate the use of different magazines and make some design improvements over the OEM module. Like the fact that the tang is too long on the OEM and will not accept all AR grips without modification.

Mainly, the other guys are 100% correct. You should use the platform before making a determination on tricking it out. You may read about some things that are "wrong" with it and when you get it in your hands you realise that that particular issue doesnt bother you personally. Most of all enjoy! The scar is my all time favorite rifle for its all around badassery.

 

[Umassot50]

Don't worry about accessories. Far too many people start making barbie accessory lists before they even own the weapon. It is a fantastic firearm and I'm sure you will be happy with it.

 

[dtrump]

Dont buy a handl or a seal right off the bat. Get the 17 and 2 mags if you dont wanna waste miney if you know eventually you will get a different lower. Plenty of cases of HD lowers being outta spec and causing issues and have seen handl basically tell customers it is not their problem. I say shoot it and after a good amount of seals ship get your consensus and decide. I expect their to be no issues with the SEAL because of the extreme amount of time and refinement put into it. Polymer may turn you kff as an ar15 guy but the weak link on a polymer ar lower is where the buffer tube connects, tye scar does not have a stress point like that. There is no pressure on it when being used. Its a non issue. Also as far as extended rails i 100% recommend tye midwest industries keymod extension. It gets rid of the large 1913 style pic rails and slims the weapon way down. It is very light and once the other rails are removed it only adds like 5 oz i think. Don't quote me on that though. I really love mine. I think they are going tk be coming out with a mlok version as well. It adds 6 inches to the rifle which is perfect. Choose a suitable optic for your needs and a good sling unless you primarily bench shoot.

Also there is 2 versions, one with the cutout to retain use of your front sight, or a continuous rail version where you would remove factory front sight and use a new front sight on the end of your extension.

 

[infidel/crusader]

I'm looking hard at the handl/lancer carbon fiber rail thing...