I was a little disappointed with the irons. I will keep her scoped from now on. I shoot better with the cheapo magpul sight on my Colt AR15 IN 9mm than with the factory SCAR sights.Was it with just the iron sights or was it with all aiming devices? My irons were not zero-able and since getting the ELCAN I'm on target. Just wanted to see if someone else was having issues with the iron sights off the store shelf.