Thanks for posting those pics mgpatty,
No, you cannot make the KAC rail panels work WITHOUT milling out the SCAR's rail. Look at how they mount, and you will soon see.
No biggie though, as I just received my new SCAR panels from TD, and boy am I glad I went with the FDE instead of black. I just think they look the best. Black certainly wouldn't look bad though. These new panels being THINNER, are simply the BOMB, and I will use them on all my rifles from here on out.
As for the MIAD grip, I can see exactly what you are describing about the improper fit, and the needed modification/filing down of the rear grip plate to make it work. HOWEVER, I am certain from looking at your pics, that a "round" file that you recommend would NOT the proper shaped file to use here. Round files are not made to file OUTSIDE curvatures, such as on the MIAD rear grip panel. I get your point though, and understand exactly what you were getting at.
MY SCAR SLING MOUNTING UPDATE: - FRONT SLING ATTACHMENT POINT: (post YOUR chosen methods too guys!)
Anyhow, I am STILL trying to decide on how to mount my BFG VCAS. I purchased and received one of the BFG "RMFL-125" rail mount sling loops, which I linked to earlier in this thread. Basically just a metal "slot" that mounts to your rail, in order to run the webbing through, WITHOUT the use of any swivels, hooks/etc on the end of the sling. Nice and SIMPLE, QUIET, STRONG, and MAR/BLEMISH FREE for your weapon.
However, It's not my personal IDEAL solution, but it IS a solution to prevent metal-on-metal contact/wear on the rifle.
It just gives me an alternative to those ridiculous Mash/Hk hooks, BOTH of which don't work as I PERSONALLY think they should on a rifle.
You see, with Mash/Hk hooks, either the SCAR's sling eyelets need to be TURNED 90 degrees, OR the Mash/Hk hooks on the sling need to be turned 90 degrees in order to work the way I would like for them to on the gun.
I hate using a Mash/Hk hook on a sling, when the guns metal sling eyelets/loops are oriented perpendicular to the bbl, as see on the SCAR. For those of you who know what I'm talking about, you have probably wished for the same thing.
REAR SLING ATTACHMENT POINT:
Now, for the rear, I have of course NO idea WHY FN would have put that HORIZONTAL slot in the stock like that?? I mean, IF that is indeed a sling slot attachment option, WHO in the world wants to run their sling in that manner, which does NOTHING but prematurely (and uncomfortably) wear out your sling, due to the slot being HORIZONTAL in the stock????
Now, IF they had put a VERTICAL SLOT, as on any typical M4 stock, THAT would have just totally made my day, but I guess we can't always have everything we want. (hell, I just want a realistically sound sling attachment point or two on my rifles).
Anyhow, I am now CONSIDERING trying out one (or two) of those BFG "UWL" pieces, which just might be the ticket for me on the REAR sling attachment. Might even use one on the FRONT of the SCAR too.
However, my only concern is CABLE WEAR?, especially with the UWL running through the SCAR's METAL sling eyelets/loops.
I realize they are COATED CABLES for this purpose, but HOW MUCH friction/wear and tear can they take when run through a sling eyelet/loop like on the SCAR?
Will the cables COATING hold up over time? I just don't know.
POST YOUR SLING MOUNTING METHOD GUYS!
Also, mgpatty, I'm going to send you a PM/Email, but if you read this anytime soon, and maybe if this forum will actually send me email notification, could you tell me what exact model that Seekonk is I see you have now acquired?
I have seen they have MANY "T" handled models, both adjustable, AND "Pre-Set" models too.
I THINK I heard that the magic bbl-bolt orque value for the SCAR bbl bolts is like "62? inch-lbs"?? right? (It COULDN'T be "foot-lbs" could it?)
Anyhow, I'm betting it is INCH POUNDS, correct?
Let me know if you went with an ADJUSTABLE Seekonk, OR if you went with a PRESET model, already set to 62 perhaps?
Finally, email/PM inbound to you mgpatty, my SCAR brother!
No, you cannot make the KAC rail panels work WITHOUT milling out the SCAR's rail. Look at how they mount, and you will soon see.
No biggie though, as I just received my new SCAR panels from TD, and boy am I glad I went with the FDE instead of black. I just think they look the best. Black certainly wouldn't look bad though. These new panels being THINNER, are simply the BOMB, and I will use them on all my rifles from here on out.
As for the MIAD grip, I can see exactly what you are describing about the improper fit, and the needed modification/filing down of the rear grip plate to make it work. HOWEVER, I am certain from looking at your pics, that a "round" file that you recommend would NOT the proper shaped file to use here. Round files are not made to file OUTSIDE curvatures, such as on the MIAD rear grip panel. I get your point though, and understand exactly what you were getting at.
MY SCAR SLING MOUNTING UPDATE: - FRONT SLING ATTACHMENT POINT: (post YOUR chosen methods too guys!)
Anyhow, I am STILL trying to decide on how to mount my BFG VCAS. I purchased and received one of the BFG "RMFL-125" rail mount sling loops, which I linked to earlier in this thread. Basically just a metal "slot" that mounts to your rail, in order to run the webbing through, WITHOUT the use of any swivels, hooks/etc on the end of the sling. Nice and SIMPLE, QUIET, STRONG, and MAR/BLEMISH FREE for your weapon.
However, It's not my personal IDEAL solution, but it IS a solution to prevent metal-on-metal contact/wear on the rifle.
It just gives me an alternative to those ridiculous Mash/Hk hooks, BOTH of which don't work as I PERSONALLY think they should on a rifle.
You see, with Mash/Hk hooks, either the SCAR's sling eyelets need to be TURNED 90 degrees, OR the Mash/Hk hooks on the sling need to be turned 90 degrees in order to work the way I would like for them to on the gun.
I hate using a Mash/Hk hook on a sling, when the guns metal sling eyelets/loops are oriented perpendicular to the bbl, as see on the SCAR. For those of you who know what I'm talking about, you have probably wished for the same thing.
REAR SLING ATTACHMENT POINT:
Now, for the rear, I have of course NO idea WHY FN would have put that HORIZONTAL slot in the stock like that?? I mean, IF that is indeed a sling slot attachment option, WHO in the world wants to run their sling in that manner, which does NOTHING but prematurely (and uncomfortably) wear out your sling, due to the slot being HORIZONTAL in the stock????
Now, IF they had put a VERTICAL SLOT, as on any typical M4 stock, THAT would have just totally made my day, but I guess we can't always have everything we want. (hell, I just want a realistically sound sling attachment point or two on my rifles).
Anyhow, I am now CONSIDERING trying out one (or two) of those BFG "UWL" pieces, which just might be the ticket for me on the REAR sling attachment. Might even use one on the FRONT of the SCAR too.
However, my only concern is CABLE WEAR?, especially with the UWL running through the SCAR's METAL sling eyelets/loops.
I realize they are COATED CABLES for this purpose, but HOW MUCH friction/wear and tear can they take when run through a sling eyelet/loop like on the SCAR?
Will the cables COATING hold up over time? I just don't know.
POST YOUR SLING MOUNTING METHOD GUYS!
Also, mgpatty, I'm going to send you a PM/Email, but if you read this anytime soon, and maybe if this forum will actually send me email notification, could you tell me what exact model that Seekonk is I see you have now acquired?
I have seen they have MANY "T" handled models, both adjustable, AND "Pre-Set" models too.
I THINK I heard that the magic bbl-bolt orque value for the SCAR bbl bolts is like "62? inch-lbs"?? right? (It COULDN'T be "foot-lbs" could it?)
Anyhow, I'm betting it is INCH POUNDS, correct?
Let me know if you went with an ADJUSTABLE Seekonk, OR if you went with a PRESET model, already set to 62 perhaps?
Finally, email/PM inbound to you mgpatty, my SCAR brother!