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I say user as for now I want to leave out safe queens and collectables. An example, at least to me, is the Robert Bayley S4 Survival Knife. Welcome to Bayleyknife - The home of practical, handmade knives This is the knife made famous or infamous as the original Bear Grylls survival knife. He still makes them but not with the Grylls signature on them. I expect the originals would have a lot of collectors value to them especially in unused or like new condition. I always liked the design of the knife and would have liked to have one. The kicker is they originally sold for $700 or $750 at the time as I recall. That was way more money than I would spend on a user. As a collector it would have been a good investment, but I am not into the high end collecting. He currently sells them for >$1K and there is a long line. I could never get myself to actually use a knife like this if I owned one.

I am a bit of a knife nut and could fill a large picnic basket with what I have accumulated over the years. I started out buying mostly cheap knives simply because I liked the looks of them. I have a few brand name knives that are a better quality that I purchased for hunting purposes back in the day. I had pretty much stopped buying knives until a couple years ago when I started back up again with a vengeance. I started educating myself on steel quality. I got attracted to all the new spring assisted folders. Having always liked autos, but couldn't carry them for legal reasons, these were the next best thing. I have a large variety from the $50-$300 range. Then I got on a binge for fixed blade knives searching for the ultimate survival/bushcraft knife. I have finely decided there is no one perfect knife for all needs. I still look at my pile and try to imagine which one I would grab if I could only choose one. It would probably drive me so crazy I would just pick up one and plunge it into my heart to end the torment. My latest fixation has been on 3"~ fixed blades that I have started using for EDC. Knives that I actually use for cutting something. The vast majority of my knives have never cut anything more than the hair on my arm.

This takes me back to my original question. My most recent acquisition was this knife Coye Knives - Coye Knives ForeRunner. My LGS is one of only two retail outlets for his knives so they usually have some on display. There is a long wait for online orders. I was lucky enough to obtain one that is a limited police edition that has carbon fiber scales for $350. To date this is the most I have spent on a knife that I intend to use. It is on me currently. So I became curious as to what others here think of my sickness and the limits you all have on what you would spend on an EDC user.
 

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A "User Knife"? Right here... $20 and you can replace the razor blades as much as your little heart desires. It's small and compact. None of my "Killer" knives get used for whittling, cutting cardboard etc.

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This is my EDC knife. Gabe Suarez Int. Grab N Stab from one source Tactical. $105, Sharp as all get out, and easily concealable. Sheath is multipositional and locks onto your belt and doesn't come off. Part of his TSD combat system

From his website:

"It's back, and this time better than ever!! As the name implies, The Grab N Stab is made for proactive/aggressive knife fighting. It is the quintessential small combat knife. Its use is paleolithic - intuitive. No art or clever knife drills are needed, just aggression, violence, and a point.

The blade, a modified Wharncliffe is designed to puncture well. But more, it is designed to cut as it penetrates. The carefully designed handle facilitates saber grip, ice pick grip, edge in, edge out, any edge any place, any time, any grip.....and for stabbing...it will support your grip as you stab into a ballistic vested dummy, or a wooden stabbing post. This grip is hard black polymer with a texture grip designed to stay in your hand.

Being an offensive concept blade, it is not meant for repelling or pushing away...it is meant for stabbing and ripping. There is no PC "cut the snake a little bit" mentality...this is for stabbing the snake to the ground and then going after the other snakes helping him.

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  • Overall Length (inches): 8.25
  • Blade Length (inches): 3.95
  • Blade Material: 01 Tool Steel, 59-60 RC
  • Blade Detail: GNS Blade Profile,
  • Handle Material: Hard Polymer Black
  • Carry System: Black Kydex Sheath (with Tek-Lock and various other carry options)
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I have an Infidel that is a user. I'm right there in that ballpark price Brother. I guess we're both in the same crazy boat :-D
 
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I say user as for now I want to leave out safe queens and collectables. An example, at least to me, is the Robert Bayley S4 Survival Knife. Welcome to Bayleyknife - The home of practical, handmade knives This is the knife made famous or infamous as the original Bear Grylls survival knife. He still makes them but not with the Grylls signature on them. I expect the originals would have a lot of collectors value to them especially in unused or like new condition. I always liked the design of the knife and would have liked to have one. The kicker is they originally sold for $700 or $750 at the time as I recall. That was way more money than I would spend on a user. As a collector it would have been a good investment, but I am not into the high end collecting. He currently sells them for >$1K and there is a long line. I could never get myself to actually use a knife like this if I owned one.

I am a bit of a knife nut and could fill a large picnic basket with what I have accumulated over the years. I started out buying mostly cheap knives simply because I liked the looks of them. I have a few brand name knives that are a better quality that I purchased for hunting purposes back in the day. I had pretty much stopped buying knives until a couple years ago when I started back up again with a vengeance. I started educating myself on steel quality. I got attracted to all the new spring assisted folders. Having always liked autos, but couldn't carry them for legal reasons, these were the next best thing. I have a large variety from the $50-$300 range. Then I got on a binge for fixed blade knives searching for the ultimate survival/bushcraft knife. I have finely decided there is no one perfect knife for all needs. I still look at my pile and try to imagine which one I would grab if I could only choose one. It would probably drive me so crazy I would just pick up one and plunge it into my heart to end the torment. My latest fixation has been on 3"~ fixed blades that I have started using for EDC. Knives that I actually use for cutting something. The vast majority of my knives have never cut anything more than the hair on my arm.

This takes me back to my original question. My most recent acquisition was this knife Coye Knives - Coye Knives ForeRunner. My LGS is one of only two retail outlets for his knives so they usually have some on display. There is a long wait for online orders. I was lucky enough to obtain one that is a limited police edition that has carbon fiber scales for $350. To date this is the most I have spent on a knife that I intend to use. It is on me currently. So I became curious as to what others here think of my sickness and the limits you all have on what you would spend on an EDC user.
My take on this is that there are three types of knives and firearms to purchase: (1) The ones that get used. (2) The ones that are passed down to future family generations for use, (3) The ones that are collectable investments which appreciate in value with time, and are intended to be cashed in like a 401K.
 

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LOL definitely in the samecrazy boat though I like to go where I wish and in todays climate being a Saltine-American (mostly) is kinda dangerous right now.
 

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I like knives, I've given away about $200 worth over a few years ago. Some to family and one that I could give a sh** about. I had a Cold Steel recon, a OEF Desert cruiser, Ka-Bar Becker Tac retard tool, SW Swat Folder Tanto, and a couple gerber folders. I find some of the folders and fixed were really nice. I don't know how much a placqued Ka-Bar was worth but I got it on my way out the door from the Misguided Children's daycare after my time was up.
 
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A "User Knife"? Right here... $20 and you can replace the razor blades as much as your little heart desires. It's small and compact. None of my "Killer" knives get used for whittling, cutting cardboard etc.

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This is my EDC knife. Gabe Suarez Int. Grab N Stab from one source Tactical. $105, Sharp as all get out, and easily concealable. Sheath is multipositional and locks onto your belt and doesn't come off. Part of his TSD combat system
I understand what you are saying here and I guess I should clarify my definitions a bit. At any given time I have 3 different knives on me. I keep a small Swiss Army knife in my pocket. I use this to cut packing tape to open boxes. I carry a Kershaw Leek flipper that I use to cut nylon straps on boxes if present. So you could really say those are my real daily users. My belt knife like yours is primarily for defensive purposes, but I would use it if I had a large task to undertake. By an EDC belt knife I meant one that you put on with the understanding that it is going to get knocked around a bit and not stay pristine like a safe queen. That's why I said my current $350 dollar one is the most I have spent on a knife that I am willing to let that happen to. I do not recall the last time I needed to whittle anything or build a snare while at work.
 

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That ForeRunner is sweet :)

I've never bought a knife that I won't use. That said, I rarely use my knives, because I can't carry one at work and tend to just forget to carry outside of work. Bringing that to its logical conclusion, I'd spend at least $5-600 on a knife that I would carry.

Honestly, you can get a really good knife with a no-questions-asked forever warranty for under $200, though. Look at ESEE, Scrap Yard, and Swamp Rat Knives. Realistically I'd carry one of those.
 

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I understand what you are saying here and I guess I should clarify my definitions a bit. At any given time I have 3 different knives on me. I keep a small Swiss Army knife in my pocket. I use this to cut packing tape to open boxes. I carry a Kershaw Leek flipper that I use to cut nylon straps on boxes if present. So you could really say those are my real daily users. My belt knife like yours is primarily for defensive purposes, but I would use it if I had a large task to undertake. By an EDC belt knife I meant one that you put on with the understanding that it is going to get knocked around a bit and not stay pristine like a safe queen. That's why I said my current $350 dollar one is the most I have spent on a knife that I am willing to let that happen to. I do not recall the last time I needed to whittle anything or build a snare while at work.
Gotcha. Really my EDC is my Mut EOD 3783-MLM60678132_9375-O.jpg
Has the strongest pliers with replaceable wire cutters, various screwdrivers, a c4 punch I use as an awl. receiver to screw on cleacing rods for my weapons, a brass carbon scraper/awl, saw, sharp knife, bottle opener/caribener etc.

That's my beat up multi tool there. I use everything on it every day pretty much though I work outdoors and have a lot of improvising on the job that's needed.
 

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I use all my Emerson knives, some pretty damn hard. They all ran close to $200 each. Some of my hunting/skinning knives were $200+ each too and those have definitely been used hard. I've only got two "safe queen" knives and that's just because the SHTF scenario hasn't played out where I need to use them (thank God).
 

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One of my carry knives I paid $400 for (although it is worth a good bit more than that when new now). I rarely have to use my knives either and I'm not terribly hard on them. My 'beater' knives are $50 range.
 

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I rock a Strider SNG. I paid a but load for it but it is a user, tool an all the blade is thick as hell, I think i could cut through a door with it.
 

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For a user knife you should pay as much as you can afford to lose and not cry over it (though you may have a beer to mourn its passing). User knives will get damaged, lost or stolen.
 

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I carried a benchmade for years that msrp for $240, it was an auto, butttt I bought enough stuff from the guy he use to sell them to me for $135. Wish I could get another one like it for that price, that ship has already sailed. One of my good friends bought me a really nice probably $75 crkt that I carried for several years but as of last fathers day I have been carrying a benchmade my wife bought me, they go for about $125. I have a super nice nakamura benchmade she bought me for likely around $240 that I carry to church on Sundays. I call it my Sunday knife. The only thing it has ever cut is a loose thread on my trousers. But boy does it look and feel good doing it lol
 

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Myself, I tend to go up to about $150 on a folder cause I flog the crap out of them usually. The cheaper the folder the more I'm willing to use them for the wrong things. I do keep several different "user" knives because of this, some (mostly the higher priced ones) are in better shape but still well used.

My more regularly carried/work folder.




For a "user" fixed blade since I'm using it in a different manor I put my limit more around $300, I'd be more pissed if I was to loose or break one of these but I could live with myself still.
 

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For a "user" fixed blade since I'm using it in a different manor I put my limit more around $300, I'd be more pissed if I was to loose or break one of these but I could live with myself still.
Fixed blade, I go ESEE. If it get's jacked up under normal (or even extreme survival situation where you do something stupid to it), they'll replace it. Then again, they're $70-100 knives as well, so not quite as big of a loss.
 
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I do carry and almost daily. I rotate between benchmade, auto sog, spyderco. I buy knives I know will function, take the abuse and that I can depend on. If I didn't have faith in it-- why carry it.
 
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