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Do any of you run an AK suppressed? From the reading I have done so far folks stay away from mounting suppressors on factory threaded AK barrels because they usually aren't concentric. However I plan on having my barrel threaded by a professional so it will be concentric. Other than that I read that they are much louder than DI ARs because of the supersonic gases escaping out of the gas block.

Is there any reason not to suppress an AK? The AK in question is a VEPR 20" 7.62x39.
 

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I have never suppressed any of my AK pattern firearms as everything I had gleened is that due to the way the gas block works the suppression is not as great compared to other systems so I never spent the money to be able to add one to them.
 
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It may not be as quiet as DI but am sure that it will be better than not. I noticed that Silincershop is selling Custom Rifle Dynamics AK/Omega combinations for $3700. For that kind of scratch I figure that has to be something to suppressing an AK.
 

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I have been researching this a lot lately as well, coincidentally. I believe you hit the high points. Only thing i might add is, my understanding is that sometimes the BORE might not be cut concentric to the barrel, and thus having the threads cut concentric may not matter. Suspect that doesn't happen a whole lot but something to watch out for.

Just as a derail....i am wanting to sbr an ak and then homebuild a form 1 for it. Never done it before but seems like a cheaper way to go on a weapon that doesn't suppress well in the first place. But, ak's sure aren't the same as ar's and doing all this myself seems like a bit more of a challenge...
 

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I have run a suppressor on an Ak. At the time it was a Gemtech HVT. I managed to find the QD mount - which was no joke. I used it on a Bulgarian Arsenal gun and a Vector Hungarian under folder, both made before the barrel import ban. I installed the flash suppressors and used a rod to ensure that they were concentric... to the best of my abilities anyway. It worked fine but that HVT was a big heavy beast.

AK's don't suppress well. Back pressure forces smoke and gas out of very seem in the gun. Around the top cover, action, mag well... It basically looked like an old truck whose engine was on fire and the smoke was just coming out the hood cracks. Having said all of that, it still is much quieter than shooting without the can. As stated the threads need to be concentric to the barrel and the bore... in an AK that isn't the same thing.
 

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I think I will stay happy (more cash in my wallet for other things) with my AK's staying unsuppressed. While yes any reduction in noise can be helpful but combined with what SeattleP90SBR mentions with the issues of the smoke/gas due to the increased backpressure of a suppressed AK just isn't what I care to deal with along with the less than optimal sound reduction.
 

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Do any of you run an AK suppressed? From the reading I have done so far folks stay away from mounting suppressors on factory threaded AK barrels because they usually aren't concentric. However I plan on having my barrel threaded by a professional so it will be concentric. Other than that I read that they are much louder than DI ARs because of the supersonic gases escaping out of the gas block.

Is there any reason not to suppress an AK? The AK in question is a VEPR 20" 7.62x39.
Yes if the barrel is good and the threads are cut right it "shouldn't" be an issue. However will say from having shot one that although they are louder than other hosts but not tremendously. You can do some things to tune the AK to make it a little better. I would recommend using a silencer with a larger bore size just to be on the safe side. Since there is a lot of flex in the receiver a larger bore size helps decrease the risk of end cap strikes.
 

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Yes if the barrel is good and the threads are cut right it "shouldn't" be an issue. However will say from having shot one that although they are louder than other hosts but not tremendously. You can do some things to tune the AK to make it a little better. I would recommend using a silencer with a larger bore size just to be on the safe side. Since there is a lot of flex in the receiver a larger bore size helps decrease the risk of end cap strikes.
Does the saker fit the bill?
 

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Being that it's a milled receiver I will see how an alignment rod lines up and go from there. Thanks for the input Jeremy I appreciate it.
 
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I own a couple 7.62x39 VEPRs and have been thinking about doing this as well. I own AAC cans and figured why not run them on my AKs as well. The problem was trying to get my SDN6 on a 14x1LH threaded vepr barrel. AAC recommends rethreading your barrel so it will accept the 1/2"-28 51T blackout Flash Hider. I did some research but I couldn't find anything that says if a VEPR barrel profile will accept this rethreading. In any event, I also want to shorten my barrel from 16" to ~14.5" and pin/weld the FH. I talked to a smith and he quoted me $250 to remove the barrel, cut it down, rethread, pin/weld FH, then re-attach barrel to the receiver. Seems like a fair price just haven't got around to dropping my vepr off yet. AAC used to have a blog post that outlined this process but the link I have doesn't seem to work anymore. Heres an article that eludes to that process. How to Screw Up a Perfectly Good AK - The Truth About Guns
 

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I own a couple 7.62x39 VEPRs and have been thinking about doing this as well. I own AAC cans and figured why not run them on my AKs as well. The problem was trying to get my SDN6 on a 14x1LH threaded vepr barrel. AAC recommends rethreading your barrel so it will accept the 1/2"-28 51T blackout Flash Hider. I did some research but I couldn't find anything that says if a VEPR barrel profile will accept this rethreading. In any event, I also want to shorten my barrel from 16" to ~14.5" and pin/weld the FH. I talked to a smith and he quoted me $250 to remove the barrel, cut it down, rethread, pin/weld FH, then re-attach barrel to the receiver. Seems like a fair price just haven't got around to dropping my vepr off yet. AAC used to have a blog post that outlined this process but the link I have doesn't seem to work anymore. Heres an article that eludes to that process. How to Screw Up a Perfectly Good AK - The Truth About Guns
1/2X28? I thought .30 cal threads were 5/8X24?
 
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1/2X28? I thought .30 cal threads were 5/8X24?
To bad that bog post isn't available anymore from AAC. However, i just checked AAC's website and 51T 1/2x28 is 7.62. Additionally i checked Midway Specifications:
  • Caliber: 30 Cal/7.62mm (Also 6.8 and 6.5mm)
  • Thread Pitch: 1/2"-28
  • Common Firearm Use: Custom Threaded AK-47
  • Length: 2.5"
  • Length Added to Barrel: 1.875"
  • Weight: 4.35 oz
  • Finish: SCARmor
  • Silencer Mount: 51T Ratchet Mount


AAC Silencer Compatibility:
  • 6.8 SPC M4-2000
  • Post-Mid 2010 7.62-SD
  • 7.62-SDN6
  • Mini 7
Advanced Armament Co (AAC) Blackout Flash Hider 51-Tooth Ratchet
 

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That's odd.

 
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Something isn't right. To only have .100 around the bore is kinda thin.

Looks to be a typo.

Here is the AAC's webpage. No option for 1/2"-28 thread for 7.62.

BLACKOUT® 51T Flash Hider
 

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Guess I didn't see it there, funny how they listed the sizes. Didn't look that far down as it appeared to be by smaller to larger.

It isn't in stock, wonder why.

A call to AAC would resolve this for sure.
 
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