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I have had an FS2000 on my mind and with recent events I decided to purchase one and a couple other FNH arms as it looked like they might become rare to unatainable.

I thought I read a lot on this forum which is my go to place for FN stuff, of course. Some how I missed the information the 9,000 coded rifles. One night I stumbled across some information, I set the iPad down, walked down the hall into the office as I had not stored the box yet - I have a one.

Well I was kind of disappointed. I read many posts in a couple of threads, here is the jist of what I recall:

FN assembles 9,000 coded rifles from spare parts due to cancelled Military contracts. There are no markings on the rifle or on rifle parts that would tell the buyer if it is a 9,000 coded rifle. The box is the easiest way to determine this and I read that FN keeps track of 9,000 coded rifles, that is they have a data base. Some say, regardless one can tell because the non-9,000 coded rifles all have hard crome plated bolt carriers where as the 9,000 coded rifles have black bolt carriers.

Others have posted that their 9,000 coded rifles came with hard cromed bolt carriers.

I thought I was getting a good deal from HK Specialists, in retrospect, I did not do enough leg work. I noticed many members here mentioned buying 9,000 coded rifles there too - for me I will just say it would have been nice if HK Secailists mentioned something about the 9,000 cooded rifles, but really the responsiblility rests with me.

I would appreciate some input and pictures from those that know more that I do about this and maybe future buyers will make their purchases with the advatage some experience.

In an attempt to to bring all the information together is one place I have included pictures of my box label and views of the bolt carrier group from many different angles.

The box:


The bolt had no marking that were obvious to me:








 

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Well, as a start all FS2000 or any other rifle that FN puts together are put together with "parts". No rifle ever comes out of any magical hole complete.

No curse and I do not know why you are "disappointed".

I do not know what you paid for your "9000" rifle but mine cost $1425. So it does not have a hard chromed bolt. It goes bang just like the ones with the hard chromed bolts though.
 

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I know most all modern arms are assembled from bins or pallets of parts so I am ceartainly not disappointed about that. I am disappointed that I did not know about 9,000 rifles as all - but like I said it is my fault for not being better informed.

I would have liked to have a hard chromed BCG but I am not sure it is the most important thing. I mean are the other BCG's hard chromed for wear or corrosion resistance? Or both? If it is very critical, would FN put them out in products? I do not know.

I paid substantially more than you but less than I would have paid on GB - BTW, I have yet to see anyone list an FS2000 on GB as 9,000 model.

The rifle is great and I do not tend to sell it. If I fall head over heals in loce with it, I will get another...
 

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I know most all modern arms are assembled from bins or pallets of parts so I am ceartainly not disappointed about that. I am disappointed that I did not know about 9,000 rifles as all - but like I said it is my fault for not being better informed.

I would have liked to have a hard chromed BCG but I am not sure it is the most important thing. I mean are the other BCG's hard chromed for wear or corrosion resistance? Or both? If it is very critical, would FN put them out in products? I do not know.

I paid substantially more than you but less than I would have paid on GB - BTW, I have yet to see anyone list an FS2000 on GB as 9,000 model.

The rifle is great and I do not tend to sell it. If I fall head over heals in loce with it, I will get another...
You have a great rifle, you will love it (at least 999 people out of 1000 do), and in no time you will realize that this is pretty much a non issue.
 

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There is nothing wrong with having the 9000. They have not been anywhere near the $1500 mark for a long wile. My FS2000 has the chromed bolt and it is a Black 9000. It does look like the label was changed at one point. So maybe it was not at first. My LGS got it for me Feb of 2012 when they where 1400-1500. Now if I can just find a Tri Rale for it.
 

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I paid $2000 for mine and if I knew that I should have paid $1500. I am not sure what I would have done. Considering right now they are hard as hell to find, I was lucky to find one that was $2000.00.

I do understand your frustration when the dealer acts like you're getting a good deal and in reality they are the ones hosing you. Not cool. And when it comes to resale value does the average consumer ask whether it's a 9000 code or not? Does it devalue the gun if it is? That's the question. To me it's kind of like buying something on sale, yeah you bought it on sale but if you can't buy it onsale again it is worth as much as an item that never was on sale.
 

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Just enjoy your FS2000, prices of the past are just that long gone. There is no more $1500, 9000 code FS2000’s. I also kick myself for not buying a few more long arms at yesteryear prices.
 

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All FS2000's operate, shoot, are maintained, and are warrantied the same...
It's not like there's really a "superior" grade and an "inferior" grade IMHO.

FN has made some bolt carrier design changes over time, but that doesn't mean the new black ones are necessarily "worse" than the older chrome ones..

FN offered some great pricing on some rifles, effectively to liquidate excess supply. It worked. :)
Some of us were fortunate enough to enjoy that pricing directly. Others are benefitting because it means there are more FS2000's available in the market than there would have been otherwise. Others were adversely impacted by lower resale values for FS2000's than their rifles would have demanded otherwise.

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I think your cursed.

I think you should give it to me, so that you will no longer be cursed. :eek:



:p Why would you think it's cursed??? You got an awesome rifle for cheaper than a non-9000 FS. :(


Take the thing shooting, and then tell us you are cursed with a sh!t eatin' grin, from ear to ear. :?
 

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But with all this warm fuzzies, the question still rears it's head. If you had a non 9000 code gun and a 9000 code gun and they were the same price and you were buying, which would you pick and if would you use the 9000 code as leverage to lower the price. Also if you were selling a non 9000 code gun would you bring it up the differences if someone mentioned they could get a 9000 code gun cheaper?
 

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But with all this warm fuzzies, the question still rears it's head. If you had a non 9000 code gun and a 9000 code gun and they were the same price and you were buying, which would you pick and if would you use the 9000 code as leverage to lower the price. Also if you were selling a non 9000 code gun would you bring it up the differences if someone mentioned they could get a 9000 code gun cheaper?
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Any gun is worth exactly what a real buyer with real cash is willing to pay for it, at that precise point in time. No more, no less. All other considerations are secondary. :)

Sure, if I had a non-9000 gun, and wanted to sell, I'd try to find someone who "cared" that it was somehow "better" than a "cursed 9000" gun. As a seller, that would be a good tactic. If I was a buyer, I'd try to convince the seller that they were asking too much, because the "value" of FS2K's has been depressed by the "flood" of overrun guns into the market at lower prices, and that they'll never get what they're asking, and therefore should lower their price. That's a good tactic for a buyer.

If one person THINKS that the non-9000 guns are "worth more" - and is actually willing to back that up with cash - then they ARE "worth more" at that point in time, for that specific transaction. But it's not because of some material difference in the gun.

Back 20 years ago, I bought a Colt Mustang in Nickel, because I didn't want to spend the money to get the more expensive, "nicer" stainless one.
A few months back, I sold the nickel mustang for twice what a stainless would go for now. Because now the nickel is perceived to be more desirable for some reason (rarity?). Perhaps the super special relatively rare military overrun 9000-coded FS2000's will be worth a lot more in the future because they are perceived as relatively rare. I doubt it... but anything's possible. :)
 

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Mine is a black 9000 coded. I payed $2100 flat on jan 19 2013. Not a bad price now in this pre ban awb scare. Other venders in the GS i buy my fs2k wanted $2300-2500. It will be a loong time till we see $1500 FS2ks Again. My FS2k went bang every pull of the trigger no jams what so ever. That was with military surplus ammo!
 
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