[richard.gozinya]

Hi everyone, thanks for reading my post. I love my p220 but I've moved to a state where I can carry more rounds. I like the way the FNX 45 feels in my hands, but I'm used to not having a safety lever. Is it possible to remove the safety lever and operate the gun exactly like I did with my p220? I know, from reading the forum here, that many cc the FNX 45 one in the chamber with safety off, relying upon DA/SA. Can I remove the safety from this gun and have it operate normally? Am I not seeing the variation that does not have a safety? Thanks for the replies,

-RG

 

[djv38]

They all have safeties now. There might be an FNP 45 decock only fire control group floating around that you could swap. I think Dantillion knows how to do a safety delete as well.

 

[Dantalion]

http://fnforum.net/forums/fn-fnx/43...x45t-their-da-decocker-w-o-safety-option.html

 

[KiA]

hey richard,
from a technical standpoint you can find the answer in the link that dantalion posted.

from a legal standpoint, modifying your firearm to defeat its safety could cause serious problems in your self-defense case, should you use your firearm in a dire moment and end up defending your action in court. check out this article from ACLDN about gun modifications.

 

[JonM]

hey richard,
from a technical standpoint you can find the answer in the link that dantalion posted.

from a legal standpoint, modifying your firearm to defeat its safety could cause serious problems in your self-defense case, should you use your firearm in a dire moment and end up defending your action in court. check out this article from ACLDN about gun modifications.

A good shoot is a good shoot. If your life is in danger and all you have at hand is a rpg and you use it then its a good shoot. A modified handgun only comes into play in cases of negligent injury or death. in those cases your deserving to get what you get.

As for the fnx just dont flick the safety up and it operates exactly like the sig p220... the sig p220 has a decocker so does the fnx. It just has an extra position which allows it to be locked on safe for even safer loading and unloading.

I wouldnt want to remove that function since the fnx is one of the few handguns that allows you to load and unload a firearm with a safety engaged. This greatly decreases the chances of a negligent discharge.

Your over thinking it because the sig p220 safety is called a decocker and the fnx decocker is called a safety.

 

[marshal kane]

It's my guess that if FNH finds out you've modified your safety, they will likely void your warranty.

 

[KiA]

A good shoot is a good shoot.

you should tattoo that on your lower back. your cell mate will love it.

 

[fnfalman]

People have pinned Colt M1911A1 grip safeties in place before. I don't ever recall anybody going to jail while using those guns for self-defense because of the pinned grip safety.

 

[JonM]

you should tattoo that on your lower back. your cell mate will love it.

So you believe that self defense has rules?? There is zero evidence that there has ever been a case of a justifiable self defense shooting where a legal gun owner was imprisoned simply because of a modified firearm.

If he modifies his fnx and then shoots a bad guy trying to kill him he isnt going to jail if it was a justified shooting. Maybe in the world of gunsandammo scare rag stories it might happen but magazine articles are mainly fiction.

If he just cranks off a round into a an innocent person a modified safety is likely to come into play But if he is doing that then he deserves to be in jail... see my point

 

[KiA]

my position is not to convince you nor the OP of what to do. i forwarded the advice of self-defense experts -- people who have provided expert testimony in many SD court cases. it may not have ever happened. it could happen. all SD scenarios are not going to be a black & white battles between good and evil. personally, if i was in that situation, i would want every advantage i could get. if you're a legal adrenaline junkie, by all means, do whatever you want.

if you say there's zero evidence or you can't recall, you have to elaborate your position to show that you

• have researched 100s if not 1000s of prosecuted SD cases, or at least
• have access to every prosecuted SD case
• have subscribed to a newsletter or service that notifies you when a SD case is lost (or settled not in favor) because of a modified safety feature
• are not just relying on your news & social media to bring you such information
• have perfect memory

i'll do my own research and get back to you.

 

[little_scrapper]

I must agree with others. I good shoot may still be prosecuted on the whims of a liberal prosecutor, or just one trying to make a name for him/her self. A good shoot MAY be deemed good if you can afford six figures in lawyer fees. Prisons are full of innocent people....

 

[fnfalman]

Seems like Zimmerman came out OK despite a liberal prosecutor AND the President of the United States of America and his lap dog the Attorney General were against Zimmerman.

I must agree with others. I good shoot may still be prosecuted on the whims of a liberal prosecutor, or just one trying to make a name for him/her self. A good shoot MAY be deemed good if you can afford six figures in lawyer fees. Prisons are full of innocent people....

 

[Vulcan71]

I recommend training with the pistol as designed then the decocker/safety will become a nonissue. I would not modify the decocker/safety as it would void your warranty and in a worst case scenario (negligent discharge, self-defense shooting, accidental shooting) may cause legal issues. Naturally it is a free country so you can do what you want with your personal property. FYI, metal custom decocker/safety levers were made (private party) for the FNX some were smaller than stock and some were larger than stock so you may be able to find a set.

 

[BudFN]

I disagree about modding the FNX to be decock only becoming a legal issue.
Consider this- a LOT of other pistols, including SOME FNs, are decock only and modding the FNX makes it functionally NO different. I'd like to see a prosecutor successfully explain how making an FDX the same as many other pistols is somehow a problem.
As for warranty- well Midwest finally got the FNP decock only trigger groups in and mine is already on its way. Rather than mod mine (easy enough) I figured I'd just swap the trigger group on the off chance I ever needed the warranty, then I'd put the original back in.

 

[richard.gozinya]

Thanks for the replies, I'm excited to make the transition. I think I'm going to go with the FN decock only FCG, no warranty issues at all.

 

[thecatch83]

IMO I wouldn't change a thing, as CCW cocked/locked is a very safe and reliable carry condition. If you're worried about it, perhaps another weapon system might suit your needs?

 

[richard.gozinya]

Thanks for the input everyone, my gun arrived today, I'm going shooting tomorrow.

 

[richard.gozinya]

Just a quick update and thanks to all who replied. I did buy the decock only FCG from midwest, works like a charm. Thanks all.

 

[Justin Bove]

Personally I like safety's. I don't have use it if I don't want to. It's also nice to have a safety when training others how to shoot. Or in situations where you have to store it. Though I must be honest I carry a HK USP9c with safety/de-cocker. And carry it chambered/de-cocked/safety on. I trained with that setup for over 15 years so I'm the strange one at training.