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So, when these were announced I was mostly shrugs. But like mold...it grew on me. I finally found one at a not completely stupid price. Stars aligned and all that crap.

I've never gone down the Kel-tec road before, so I hope this wasn't a big mistake. But the reviews I've read/watched have been pretty positive, so here we go.

Plus I figured with ammo cost and availability it was a good time to add another 5.7 mouth to feed. That is, of course, a joke. But what the hell, I make dumb decisions all the time...what's one more?

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I'll get to shooting next week sometime. It's light. The sights are tiny, but I have an Aimpoint knock-off that I can throw on there. Dry firing the trigger doesn't feel all that bad. It came with Pro-Mags...so I can finally say I own one now, two, actually. I have plenty of real FN mags to fall back on, so no worries there.
 

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Congrats. I prob would have waited for gen 3-5 but it’s hard sometimes lol.
Yeah, that would have been the smart move. I'm trusting that the reviews I saw on it weren't paid ads in disguise. That may have been a foolish move on my part.
On the grand scale of blind faith moves that I've done, I give this a solid "4".
I started the Form 1 process on it already. Got it its own can also. When I'll actually have it in hand...who the fudge knows.
 

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I am jealous. I really want someone to make a folding stock/brace for it.
There are a couple of different picatinny adapters out there for it. That's the SBR route I'm going, but it would work for a brace too.
 

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Congrats. I prob would have waited for gen 3-5 but it’s hard sometimes lol.
Check for a feed ramp on the barrel. If it doesn't have one, and it has polished guide rods it's likely already gen 2-3. Mine has been repaired 2 times from KT :O This gun's MAJOR drawback is that it's direct blowback. It's hard on brass. Originally the cases were being stretched with NO shoulder movement. Primers were flatter than my coffee table. I am not sure what they've done, but shoulders are now moving, and primers are better shape. I wonder if the guide rods added mass to the system. I think they need a heavier hammer to delay it somewhat.
Brass pics: 5.7x28mm, Brass from Keltec P50 T&E

 

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Check for a feed ramp on the barrel. If it doesn't have one, and it has polished guide rods it's likely already gen 2-3. Mine has been repaired 2 times from KT :O This gun's MAJOR drawback is that it's direct blowback. It's hard on brass. Originally the cases were being stretched with NO shoulder movement. Primers were flatter than my coffee table. I am not sure what they've done, but shoulders are now moving, and primers are better shape. I wonder if the guide rods added mass to the system. I think they need a heavier hammer to delay it somewhat.
Brass pics: 5.7x28mm, Brass from Keltec P50 T&E

I wish they would work on these issues before releasing to the public but I guess at least they have come up with fixes quick. They def have a rep they are good to go with their firearms once you get a gen 3+ model lol lol
 

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Yeah, that would have been the smart move. I'm trusting that the reviews I saw on it weren't paid ads in disguise. That may have been a foolish move on my part.
On the grand scale of blind faith moves that I've done, I give this a solid "4".
I started the Form 1 process on it already. Got it its own can also. When I'll actually have it in hand...who the fudge knows.
I hope it works out I prob would have tortured it first before the nfa route. That’s what I wish I did with my pos kriss vector
 

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Check for a feed ramp on the barrel. If it doesn't have one, and it has polished guide rods it's likely already gen 2-3.
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I don't reload, so I'm not too worried about the brass. But still, now I have that "what have I done" feeling.

I hope it works out I prob would have tortured it first before the nfa route. That’s what I wish I did with my pos kriss vector
I'm getting old and impatient. But you're right. Live and learn...although I never seem to get that last part right.
 

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I don't reload, so I'm not too worried about the brass. But still, now I have that "what have I done" feeling.


I'm getting old and impatient. But you're right. Live and learn...although I never seem to get that last part right.
i dodged a huge bullet with the mdr group buy and was lucky to get my deposit money refunded. Trust me you’re not the only impatient one lol. I felt like Ihit the lottery when I got out of that mess
 

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I don't reload, so I'm not too worried about the brass. But still, now I have that "what have I done" feeling.


I'm getting old and impatient. But you're right. Live and learn...although I never seem to get that last part right.
I would definitely keep an eye on the brass, as it's a potential SAFETY issue firing the gun. IE KB if you break a neck off and the next round gets loaded, and the hammer drops ;)

If the cases are elongated but the shoulder isn't moving, that's a potential for a brass failure. Make sure you check the primers. If they are flat and the cases ae being stretched, definitely contact them. Those are the original rods. Mine were replaced/updated with machined and polished versions. Is the rear barrel support on yours a 3 screw or 4 screw unit?

5.7x28mm, SS197SR, 40gr VMAX, Failure by Buffman RANGE, on Flickr

First 200 rounds primers were on the right :O

5.7x28mm Brass from P50 T&E by Buffman RANGE, on Flickr
 

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Is the rear barrel support on yours a 3 screw or 4 screw unit?
If it's this...four.
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I'll keep an eye on the brass. Hopefully it'll all be good. I've sent more guns back to manufactures in 2021 than the previous decade combined.
 

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Man, when I was filling out my 4473, some dude offered me $200 more than I paid. I should have taken it and bought that M70 I've been eyeing.
 

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Check for a feed ramp on the barrel. If it doesn't have one, and it has polished guide rods it's likely already gen 2-3. Mine has been repaired 2 times from KT :O This gun's MAJOR drawback is that it's direct blowback. It's hard on brass. Originally the cases were being stretched with NO shoulder movement. Primers were flatter than my coffee table. I am not sure what they've done, but shoulders are now moving, and primers are better shape. I wonder if the guide rods added mass to the system. I think they need a heavier hammer to delay it somewhat.
Brass pics: 5.7x28mm, Brass from Keltec P50 T&E

What brace does he have on that? I want to know more. Where can I buy it?
 

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I don't know about that adapter made out of nylon. I would really want aluminum for a weapon used in the field.
 

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It's an interesting blaster, very intriguing. Something about that front swinging hing makes me cringe a little. It doesn't give me the impression of durability.

I wouldn't rule one out though. It's a small package with a lot of potential.
 

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Something about that front swinging hing makes me cringe a little. It doesn't give me the impression of durability.
If it can be broken, I'm the one to do it. I have a weird, ape-like strength that always materializes exactly when I don't need it.
 

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I have been looking at these since they were announced ... sucker for 5.7 anything it would seem. How has it performed shooting? How is the balance with a fully loaded mag?
Thanks for sharing!
 
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