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Trijicon TR25. The 1-6x, with fiber optic and tritium illumination is a game changer. No batteries, good reticules, relatively light weight, great glass, decent eye relief, and a price that isn't all that bad. When these start popping up in the wild, I'll probably replace my ACOG with one.
 

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I went with a NF 2.5-10x42 on mine. Seemed to me to be a good compromise for close quarters and distance shooting. Trijicon is just coming out with their 6x magnified Accupoints now and I'd be awfully interested in the new TR26 2.5-12.5x42 if I was just starting to look for an optic again.
 

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I love the CQBSS with the H-27D ret. It is the one I run the most, but when I had more often then not a 600yrd engagement then the Mark 6 3-18x44 with a Delta Point on the side for 0-50yrd quick shots. (that set up works great in a long range 3 gun match.)

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I love the CQBSS and it is the one I run the most, but when I had more often then not a 600yrd engagement then the Mark 6 3-18x44 with a Delta Point on the side for 0-50yrd quick shots. (that set up works great in a long range 3 gun match.)

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I agree that the Compact, lightweight, Leupold Mark 6 3-18 x44mm with offset or piggy-back RDS is as good as it gets for a medium to long range package. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the new Leupold D-evo system for close to medium range engagements. Now a days, you can have your cake and eat too.
 

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I have a March Tactical 1-10x24mm on the 17s. It weights only 500g and 10x is great for those distance shots.
 
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There are so many choices these days I just need a suitcase full of bens so I can obtain them all at once just to compare them against each other. I had a USO 1.8x10 on my 17 for awhile it was a big beast for the power range so now I've got an elcan coming in tomorrow to try. I'll see what happens I guess. I do like that leupold Cqbss also but these optics are running more that the rifles their on these days, Sheezz! it makes me feel :?:
 

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I'm in the leupold camp. However my eyes are pretty bad so I too went with a MK6 3-18. I'm sure the 1-6 or better the CQBSS would get the job done with flying colors for someone with good eyesight. Awesome optics!
 

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I have a March Tactical 1-10x24mm on the 17s. It weights only 500g and 10x is great for those distance shots.
Wow, that one is not bad, 1-10 and lightweight is impressive.

Tight race so far. I want to keep it as light as possible that is why the Leupold 1-6x is interesting to me. A lot of good ones in the "other" category.
 

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The MK6 is hard to beat for the price and the weight IMO. The MK 8 although heavier gives that extra boost for longer targets. I voted for the MK8. I am in the Leupold camp but those are all great optics for the SCAR. The March does sound interesting.

Wow, that one is not bad, 1-10 and lightweight is impressive.

Tight race so far. I want to keep it as light as possible that is why the Leupold 1-6x is interesting to me. A lot of good ones in the "other" category.
 

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Not really Matt it's just a choice and it just comes down to which one fits your shooting style better that's all. Heck a lot of us around here are still looking for the perfect optic to put on our rifle. I'm on my second scope for my 17 and I'm sure there are a few here that have tried more. Good luck and I'd imagine the Vcog is a good one also.
 

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My first post and question...

Is the scar 17 as rough on optics as some folks say?
Do a forum search. The short answer is kinda. It has beaten some lesser scopes to death - meaning cheap ass don't belong on $2,700 rifle scopes. Folks have good luck with leupold, night force, vortex, trijicon, S&B, Kahles, USO and a few others.
 

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Do a forum search. The short answer is kinda. It has beaten some lesser scopes to death - meaning cheap ass don't belong on $2,700 rifle scopes. Folks have good luck with leupold, night force, vortex, trijicon, S&B, Kahles, USO and a few others.
Thanks!

Will it kill a EOTech? I already have a EOTech to use until I get something better. But I don't really want to destroy it.
 

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Thanks!

Will it kill a EOTech? I already have a EOTech to use until I get something better. But I don't really want to destroy it.
A lot of people on here run EOTechs. I ran one on my 16S for years, looking to get another actually. Should be good to go on a 17S.
 

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A lot of people on here run EOTechs. I ran one on my 16S for years, looking to get another actually. Should be good to go on a 17S.
Thanks! I bit the bullet and ordered a Elcan SpecterDR 1.5-6x. I hope I'll like it, I've never used one before. I like the idea of having it all in one. But I don't think it will be as nice as an EOTech up close.

One reason I went with the Elcan is because they are supposed to be very tough and should be able to take anything the 17s can dish out.
 

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The SpecterDR's are not as good as EOTechs up close, but EOTechs only excel up close; even with a 3x mag attachment it's still at half the mag of your DR, and the reticle is all blown up. I'm aware that soldiers half my age can probably make 600yd shots with an EOTech, but I certainly can not! Did you know that the DR has iron sights mounted on top of it by default? Also there is a flat spot for mounting a tiny red dot.

So your Elcan SpecterDR unlocks 4 more upgrades:

Flash/reflection killer: http://www.amazon.com/Elcan-Specter-Anti-Reflection-Device/dp/B003UZQ6ZK
- Part of the awesomeness of Elcans is the glass. The anti reflection devices are neat but seriously cut down on light transmission. Unless you're being hunted by other humans, this is a novelty. Maybe I'm missing something though.

Lens covers: Amazon.com : Elcan Bikini-Style Lens Covers For Specter DR 1.5x-6x OSC-SDR6-B : Red Dot And Laser Sights : Sports & Outdoors
- The bikini covers work if you put a red dot on top and also if you use the anti reflection device. The nice "zipper sock" type will not fit correctly in those two scenarios.

Mini reflex sight: (See: Docter Optik, Trijicon, and Elcan now)
- I have not done a ton of research on these. The Docters seem to be the most common, but they are no longer made which to me is a detriment. Trijicon is probably what I'd want, though I just found out that Elcan is making ones now that fit on any of their Specter sites.

Lever upgrades: ([email protected])
- Some folks have issues with the mount levers that ship on the DR's. There was a ****storm kickin up a couple years back about them breaking, etc. I never had a problem with the original levers, but the upgraded version are undeniably better. You can't order them from a website (unless that's changed), but the ARMS folks have some damn fine customer service; just shoot 'em a mail and they'll ask for your CC and shipping info. I've dealt with Lisa Gearin @ ARMS a few times and she is absolutely awesome. I say the Mk2 levers are better because they allow much better adjustment of the... wedges (ramps?) that grip the rail.

In my experience, the DR's are not Aimpoints - the battery will not last for 20 years with the reticle on low. Mine isn't /bad/ with battery, but it's definitely worse than all my other illuminated sites. Can't tell ya why. Hell, maybe it's just because I go "house commando" with the 17 more often than the others. Anyhow, you made a wise purchase!
 
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