Who uses their 5.7 weapon for a home defense weapon?
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I would have to say normally no, but in case of Zombies it is game on!
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In general I don't think it a good idea to use "assualt rifles" or exotic looking weapons for self defense no matter what the caliber is. When the bring it out in front of a gun hating jury, it won't look good.
Now in the case of zombies or any other mass civil unrest where it's every man for himself. I take out every thing i got.
Now in the case of zombies or any other mass civil unrest where it's every man for himself. I take out every thing i got.
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Well, I will admit that I would only pull out my PS90 if things were REALLY bad. Its a great gun - but like ya said... If you have other weapons that do the job and don't look as nasty when sitting on an open table in court - you'd be better off using one of them.wlcohen said:
However, I got my Five Seven pistol specifically to use with 197 ammo - after my son was born. It is less likely to penetrate as many interior walls as a traditional calibered handgun would.
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One of the whole points of the 5-7 ammo is that is DOESN'T over penetrate on hard targets (except for armor for that special police round). That's one of the aspects billed towards the police to get them to use the gun. It won't go thru a bunch of walls.wlcohen said:I did not realize that. I would think a fast round like that would be more likely - of course I have no experience/expertise on the matterShipWreck said:
Can you explain.
Now, the 197 V Max round doesn't penetrate as deep as the 195. But, it makes a much bigger hole and fragments. I've read various tests that show the VMax round fragments easily on hard objects.
Do I know exactly how many peices of sheetrock it would go thru before it stopped? No. But I do know it will be less than a 9mm or 40 cal round.
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Same here, my handgun's job is to get me to the shotgun.
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I had a shotgun for years - a nice WInchester 1300 with a folding stock. However, after 1 local range closed down in 1999 - it just sat on the rack.
It was the only range that let me shoot it on the rifle range (most places won't because you'll shoot up the target stand). After it sat there, unused for years, I sold it about 2.5 years ago. It was not the kind of shotgun you'd shoot skeet with, and I have nio desire to shoot skeet)
I've always felt more comfortable with a handgun - at least until I discovered the PS90. I never cared for traditional rifle ergonomics.
Now that I have a child, I have my pistol locked in a gun vault. I COULD get a wall mounted lock to keep my shotgun by the bed, but I don't think the wife would like that :x - and it would take longer to open than the gun vault.
I looked at Benelli's earlier this year - but the action doesn't feel as nice as that WInchester I had. And, I once again questioned the whole purpose of me even buying a shotgun when I have no place to shoot it.
It was the only range that let me shoot it on the rifle range (most places won't because you'll shoot up the target stand). After it sat there, unused for years, I sold it about 2.5 years ago. It was not the kind of shotgun you'd shoot skeet with, and I have nio desire to shoot skeet)
I've always felt more comfortable with a handgun - at least until I discovered the PS90. I never cared for traditional rifle ergonomics.
Now that I have a child, I have my pistol locked in a gun vault. I COULD get a wall mounted lock to keep my shotgun by the bed, but I don't think the wife would like that :x - and it would take longer to open than the gun vault.
I looked at Benelli's earlier this year - but the action doesn't feel as nice as that WInchester I had. And, I once again questioned the whole purpose of me even buying a shotgun when I have no place to shoot it.
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couldnt agree more... but to take that a bit further, 40 grains at 2200 fps isnt a whole lot of hit. with all the debate raging ove 62 grains at close to 3k fps, im not sure i could even play devils advocate on the 5.7 for home defense. its a wound creator. thats a nato thing. or for our purposes, its a zombie gun. not much more.
the home invador we need to be prepared for is dedicated, violent and single minded. little holes might stop him, but you cant rely on that. ask yourself this... if fully motivated, how many rounds from your 88 magnum revolver could you spray around the house between the first hit you took from a super hot 22, and the 10th(when you realized you were dead)?
all of them id bet. and where did they go? bad places.
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I do and since we have a Castle Doctrine here in Indiana, I can care less what I use to shoot and intruder.
If they made a low recoil .50 BMG PDW, I'd use that :-x :-D
Also with all the cheap($50) Level IIA vest floating around there, I don't want to have to come up against an intruder with a vest.
If they made a low recoil .50 BMG PDW, I'd use that :-x :-D
Also with all the cheap($50) Level IIA vest floating around there, I don't want to have to come up against an intruder with a vest.
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Five Seven with extended mag, light and laser first and then if needed whatever I can grab next....
I must admit in the begining, I had my reservations as to the effectiveness of the fiveseven, in the home defence role. :roll:
This was all prior to range time, and research of the round.This all changed, once I touched off this puppy, and heard how loud this thing was. (just as loud as 9mm,40,and 45) :-x
Made me look at those little tiny bullets in a whole different light. :evil: This pistol was designed for combat, and it excells in that capacity.
large magazines,quick follow up shots,no recoil,no over penetration
This round expells all of its energy into the target,does the electric slide dance, and then trys to slow its self down at the expense of the bg's insides.
This results in a no exit wound, the concept along with its other ballistic capabilities make it a hard to beat package.
Besides, with all the new developments yet to come, I believe we havent even tapped into the potential of this round yet. :shock:
This was all prior to range time, and research of the round.This all changed, once I touched off this puppy, and heard how loud this thing was. (just as loud as 9mm,40,and 45) :-x
Made me look at those little tiny bullets in a whole different light. :evil: This pistol was designed for combat, and it excells in that capacity.
large magazines,quick follow up shots,no recoil,no over penetration
This round expells all of its energy into the target,does the electric slide dance, and then trys to slow its self down at the expense of the bg's insides.
This results in a no exit wound, the concept along with its other ballistic capabilities make it a hard to beat package.
Besides, with all the new developments yet to come, I believe we havent even tapped into the potential of this round yet. :shock:
Nope
I have a Glock model 20 loaded with Magsafes and two spare magazines with typical hollow points in my nightstand.
I just can't imagine a situation where pulling out a rifle that I keep in a case would be time effective, nor am I that convinced that 5.7 is all that great for stopping people quickly.
Maybe if I ever got on the ball and did a SBR and got a suppressor the PS90 would be my goto gun since it wouldn't have blinding muzzle flash and deafening report in a dark house, that'd make it a viable weapon knowing you can fire it quickly, easily and as much as needed.
Of course I live in a state where gunning down a bad guy with an exotic weapon will not cause me any grief. If I lived in a gun grabber state I'd own what ever pistol the local police used and load it with the same ammo as well.
I have a Glock model 20 loaded with Magsafes and two spare magazines with typical hollow points in my nightstand.
I just can't imagine a situation where pulling out a rifle that I keep in a case would be time effective, nor am I that convinced that 5.7 is all that great for stopping people quickly.
Maybe if I ever got on the ball and did a SBR and got a suppressor the PS90 would be my goto gun since it wouldn't have blinding muzzle flash and deafening report in a dark house, that'd make it a viable weapon knowing you can fire it quickly, easily and as much as needed.
Of course I live in a state where gunning down a bad guy with an exotic weapon will not cause me any grief. If I lived in a gun grabber state I'd own what ever pistol the local police used and load it with the same ammo as well.
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