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The barrels come with that new ECP flash hider. It looks like an earlier Rotex i currently have on my 14.5" scar-L.. anybody can confirm what suppressor was meant to fit on it? The Box goes like "compatible with FN quick detach suppressor", but FN must be outsourcing those from another company I assume?

Over here in Europe, SCAR's usually run Brügger & Thomet suppressors. I own a Rotex V and it fits on the early flash hider. I wonder if the Rotex suppressor fits the ECP one as well!
 

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Beautiful! Congrats on the awesome combo.
 
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Jealousy...I have it.

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The barrels come with that new ECP flash hider. It looks like an earlier Rotex i currently have on my 14.5" scar-L.. anybody can confirm what suppressor was meant to fit on it? The Box goes like "compatible with FN quick detach suppressor", but FN must be outsourcing those from another company I assume?

Over here in Europe, SCAR's usually run Brügger & Thomet suppressors. I own a Rotex V and it fits on the early flash hider. I wonder if the Rotex suppressor fits the ECP one as well!
Are there restrictions or permits to own sound suppressors where you are?
 

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Here in Switzerland it works like this: Suppressors, laser pointers, Grenade launchers and full autos are all considered "prohibited items". You can still aquire them, but not via the standard buying-permit way. Permits to buy prohibited items are not regulated at a federal level, thus leaving it up to the cantonal authorities (our cantons are your states, assuming you come from the US). In Zurich for instance, in principle they allow you to own such items granted that they know you as a "serious" collector. In Ticino where I used to live before, you need to sit through an exam about the legal framework around weapons + technical issues.

Keep in mind that this is just for prohibited weapons. For standard weapons, that everything that is essentially not "prohibited", you just need a buying permit which is issued after a background check. that one lasts roughly 1-2 weeks no questions asked (unless your criminal record looks funny).
 

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Just came back from the range and tried out the new suppressor.. Ran it on the stock barrel though, 10.5" kit still not mounted. The noise reduction is quite big, further I also like that the noise type somewhat changes. Took a video as well, unfortunately it ain't Micheal Bay's quality. suppressor: THUMBS UP!! Machine Art
 

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Nice!!!
 
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Andy quick question, are you guys allowed to concealed carry for personal protection, and such? and how cost effective are the prohibited items such as full autos, an are you restricted to previously registered items before said date, like we are here in the states?
 

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Hi Rival,
over here concealed carry is hard to get.. Without a specific purpose, they do not hand it out at all. If you ask me, i think it's ok like that.. Self defense is allowed, but it must be proportional to the threat according to our legal framework. So if i double tap an unarmed burglar stealing my bike i could run into troubles. This also applies if he just had a knife. Indiscriminate use of deadly force is authorized only in those situations about life and death for you or people around you. Even then you'd be sucked into investigations in order to prove the point... So forget about CC and if someone breaks in my house i'm better off firing some warning rounds ;-)

we do not have any restriction about prohibited items whatsoever - the cost is flat for all and nets up to ca. 100$ which is the 'extra' buying permit that is issued to you by the police. Some full autos are actually cheaper than new semi-only guns, partly due to the fact that their market is less liquid. You can also get some new guns in select fire versions: SIG 550/551/553 can be bought in select fire version for 150$ extra on top of the standard price.

Overall the gun ecosystem here is stricter in some ways, but also more relaxed in other aspects compared to the US. Probably the major pro is that we do not have SBR issues at a federal level. Nor do we have other state limitations (i think california is notoriously stricter than other states). On the other hand we do have some sort of universal background check before a buying permit is issued - it is needed even for private sales, else you are still responsible for what happens with the gun as you are the last 'legal' owner thereof.

I saw some pictures of fellow gun collectors running select fire MP7, Minimis etc.. If you are into guns and have money, Switzerland can make you a happy man :) more of a collector's country though, as shooting outside in the woods or self defense are a bit more complicated!
 
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