I have seen plenty of p90 selectors for sale... I want one for looks on my sbr. Hammer pack is gen 3. Can I put the selector on and be ok with no ill effects? Tried to search for the answer but couldn't find it.
p90 selector in ps90? legit or no?
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If charged, and since the P90 selector doesn't affect the ability of a PS trigger pack to operate in a fully automatic state, kinda doubtful.
Speaking of IF's: If 'manipulation' by the ATF were something to worry about, each and every owner of a Gen1 or Gen2 trigger pack is a potential felon even without possessing a bitsy piece of plastic.
Who was it that applied zip ties(r) and duct tape, the owner or the ATF?
Give me a few screws a plate and some steel and I can turn a lever action .30-30 full automatic.
Speaking of IF's: If 'manipulation' by the ATF were something to worry about, each and every owner of a Gen1 or Gen2 trigger pack is a potential felon even without possessing a bitsy piece of plastic.
Who was it that applied zip ties(r) and duct tape, the owner or the ATF?
Give me a few screws a plate and some steel and I can turn a lever action .30-30 full automatic.
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There is a lot of good information in this thread and some sage advice. Unfortunately, the ATF/FTB is well known for saying one thing in a determination then changing their minds (there are multiple threads on this alone) days or even years later. While it's legal to put a functioning 3 position selector switch in a PS90, some over zelous FED or even local authority may/will take issue with it and make your life difficult for you. This is what many are saying by indicating not to go there.
I have no issues going toe to toe with anyone about this and understand that others are not comfortable doing the same. If you choose to mod your PS90 to NEAR P90 configuration, that is fine but make sure your ducks are in a row and be prepared to educate those who should know in the first place.
I don't need a switch that goes to the "A" position simply because it has a red A on it. This is another 2 second mod should I desire to do so on a regular selector switch and use a stencil set to put an A on it, should I desire to do so. For those that want the real P90 selector for their PS90, I say go for it, but be sure that you are willing to go toe to toe and can justify your stance.
I never go any place with an NFA item without my binder of approved forms and multitude of determination letters. This is why I am willing to go toe to toe. Make sure you can CYA at all times.
I have no issues going toe to toe with anyone about this and understand that others are not comfortable doing the same. If you choose to mod your PS90 to NEAR P90 configuration, that is fine but make sure your ducks are in a row and be prepared to educate those who should know in the first place.
I don't need a switch that goes to the "A" position simply because it has a red A on it. This is another 2 second mod should I desire to do so on a regular selector switch and use a stencil set to put an A on it, should I desire to do so. For those that want the real P90 selector for their PS90, I say go for it, but be sure that you are willing to go toe to toe and can justify your stance.
I never go any place with an NFA item without my binder of approved forms and multitude of determination letters. This is why I am willing to go toe to toe. Make sure you can CYA at all times.
Hell I remember when John Norrell was welding M-16 receivers back together (back when dewatting by band saw was legal)
He would weld up the auto disconnect hole and area refinish it and sell it as a SEMI M-16 lower receiver. Was it legal? Hell yes and BATF didn't like it one bit.
But its one thing to make a VISUAL clone and a whole different thing to start installing parts from a select fire Title II weapon into a semi.
I've worked with BATF Enforcement in the past, I wouldn't want them looking over my shoulder (or serving a Warrant on me at 03:00)
He would weld up the auto disconnect hole and area refinish it and sell it as a SEMI M-16 lower receiver. Was it legal? Hell yes and BATF didn't like it one bit.
But its one thing to make a VISUAL clone and a whole different thing to start installing parts from a select fire Title II weapon into a semi.
I've worked with BATF Enforcement in the past, I wouldn't want them looking over my shoulder (or serving a Warrant on me at 03:00)
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Feel free to do as you wish, as you will be responsible for your actions.
Interesting you should mention the possession of said hammer packs, as not too long ago there was an individual with one, a PS90 SBR, a video camera, and a you tube account who did cross over into that area. He hasn't been seen here on FNF in quite some time.
One last bit of insight. FNF is open to all members, including but not limited to agents of the BATFE.
For the record, Stryker Enterprises will not be supplying you with a few screws a plate and some steel so you can convert a .30-30 lever action into a machine gun.
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Maybe said agents would like to weigh in on the matter? There opinion is really the only one that counts. My thought though is, semi auto is semi auto no matter how you look at it. I could have a 30 position switch, bit if it only fired in semi auto in all 30 positions it breaks no laws?
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And just to be very clear... I own no other trigger packs, never will. Just a semi auto gen 3 pack sbr. I just want to make it as authentic looking, but legal, as it can be. Nothing more.
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1) The astute reader will notice I said Gen1 or Gen2 trigger packs, referring to the PS90 (unless there are differing generations of P90 trigger packs, in which case I'll specify I meant "PS" not "P". What someone does with whatever you were talking about isn't important to me in the very least.
2) Not that it's insightful or anything, but there's a forum devoted to talking about (a certain NFA Item) that's also open to BATF agents, and in it they did everything but draw pictures of how to make a PS90 do awful things. As that thread was about 5 years ago, I'm fairly sure the ATF has read it by now. The nice thing is, a properly assembled PS90 of any generation won't go full auto except for by accident or modification. If the ATF hasn't read it by some chance, they can give me a PM and I'll tell the exactly what post, on what page of what forum.
Or, they can just Google 'make p90 automatic' and look about the 3rd result down (results not always typical, limitations may apply, not valid with any other offer or if you have acne.)
3) You won't sell me with plates and screws? Oh Lawd, whatever shall I do? ACE? Lowe's, Home Depot?
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I tripped over that thread today while looking for selector info... I promptly exited. It was info I didn't care to know about!
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If you're looking for legal advice, speak to an attorney who is well versed in firearms law at the federal level as he would be the one representing you if your were charged with violating a section of The National Firearms Act, not somebody posting anonymously on an internet forum.
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Not looking for legal advice... I just figured someone might have already known the correct answer. Guess I might call the tech branch and see what they say about it? Although I am sure I will get a vague answer about it.
I dont know any other state laws, but as I understand the Washington state laws, even if the firearm is still legal with the p90 selector the part itself is not because it is intended "solely" for use in the p90 and was never an option for the ps90.
RCW 9.41.220
Unlawful firearms and parts contraband.
All machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles, or any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, illegally held or illegally possessed are hereby declared to be contraband
RCW 9.41.220
Unlawful firearms and parts contraband.
All machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles, or any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, illegally held or illegally possessed are hereby declared to be contraband
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All this talk about the NFA and GCA etc of the USC and breaking it:
Yes, obey the law, but we need to do more than *****foot around and worry about breaking the USC and other laws, we need to do our best to get these damned UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws repealed or at the very least amended.
We we would not have to be worrying about stupid things like a silly safety switch having three positions or breaking forum rules.
We won't have to worry about the BATFE enforcing infringing laws or creating like regulations
Yes, obey the law, but we need to do more than *****foot around and worry about breaking the USC and other laws, we need to do our best to get these damned UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws repealed or at the very least amended.
We we would not have to be worrying about stupid things like a silly safety switch having three positions or breaking forum rules.
We won't have to worry about the BATFE enforcing infringing laws or creating like regulations
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Luckily texas is a little bit more gun friendly than that and basically anything legal at the federal level is legal to own in texas provided you have all the necessary paperwork.
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Texas is awesome!
With actual towns named Gun Barrel City and Cut-And-Shoot, we are clearly 2A friendly
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Well lesson learned... steer clear of the so called factory p90 selectors on gunbroker. They are nothing more than ps90 selectors dremeled and stamped with an A and poorly colored with a ****ing red crayon! Not what is shown or described in the ad.
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FN P90 SELECTOR : Class 3 Parts & Accessories at GunBroker.com even says it is a factory p90 switch...I hate shady people.
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Pretty much could have told you that.
If you want to, you can use a utility knife to remove the block on the selector switch, then get a stencil set or some nail polish and paint an "A" on the selector switch. Your $1.99 solution. Or just paint the "A" on the regular selector switch and be done with it.
New PS90/FS2K selector switches are somewhere about $5 to $8 depending on where you get them.
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Yeah I just sent him a ****ty email and reported it to gb... I am sure nothing will come of it though. Oh well.
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That is what I would have had I known these weren't real.
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