I have seen plenty of p90 selectors for sale... I want one for looks on my sbr. Hammer pack is gen 3. Can I put the selector on and be ok with no ill effects? Tried to search for the answer but couldn't find it.
p90 selector in ps90? legit or no?
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What an idiot... the guy knows he is wrong. He blocked my email after he replied.
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He sells them on Ebay and Gunbroker, and we've talked about him in the past.
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Damn... wish I had been here long enough to know that. Oh well. Credit card company can handle it now.
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Yeah, I would report it as well. The ad says P90 selector switch and it is not according to what you mentioned. It is pretty much a bastardized PS90 selector switch made to imitate a P90 selector switch and according to you, not a very good job at that. You probably got the 'but it works just like the P90' email. One is real, the other is fake...but what difference does it make. Just ask Hillary.
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It's not Crayon, It's Paint and It's not dremeled its MILLED and Engraved. You cant BUY P90 selectors from FN.
I DOUBT YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT YOURSELF.
That is his exact email when I called him out on it.
I DOUBT YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT YOURSELF.
That is his exact email when I called him out on it.
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I asked him through emails and on the phone if they were p90 selectors and he said yeah I buy the straight from fn
Does anybody have a returned BATFE letter on this with this specific question asked? Not that I am SBRing my PS (I'll keep my $200, thank you..) I've always just been curious. One would think that the SA sear still being in place and operational would make the fact that the trigger can be pulled back a little further (putting more stress on your main sear spring) would be a moot point. It still doesn't shoot FA unless illegally modified.. (See AK variants) I personally think It would be cool to have that "A" stamped on my selector, but %99 of the fake ones don't 1- allow three real positions and 2- match the factory paint and look "added" or "engraved". If it's a legal mod, I'd be down to buy the part for the asthetics *shrug* our guns look BA anyways.. Why not make them cooler looking?
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Pray tell, where does one find said switches in-stock? I've looked, and the only 3 places I've found were Stryker Enterprises (out of stock), Midwest Gun Works (out of stock), and Gunbroker (shady ***hole asking waaay too much).
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http://www.fnhusa.com/r/support/support_faq_tabs/
Where can I get parts for my FNH USA firearm?
FNH USA parts are distributed by the FNH USA Service center. Contact them at 800-635-1321.
Where can I get parts for my FNH USA firearm?
FNH USA parts are distributed by the FNH USA Service center. Contact them at 800-635-1321.
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You can back order but the are out of stock with a resupply due in either late June or early July, along with the PS90 Hammer Packs.
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he shows his last activity on here a few days ago, and he's still making plenty of videos on YT, if I'm thinking of the same person.I wonder how "he" is doing.
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Well after reporting twice...P-90 selector, from ps90 selector : Class 3 Parts & Accessories at GunBroker.com
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At least t is more accurate thanks to you.Well after reporting twice...P-90 selector, from ps90 selector : Class 3 Parts & Accessories at GunBroker.com
And only $155 plus $10 for shipping. For a $5 or $8 part.
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If that..
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Yeah funny it went up 55.00.
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So as I mentioned in my initial post, if you want an answer that has more weight to it than an internet forum, call the ATF and ask to talk to an agent in the technical branch. You don't need to identify yourself, and just ask them if in stalling a full auto switch is legal, if it does not really make it auto. I think you will find that they appreciate people calling them before there is a problem, and they will be honest with you to help make sure there is not problem.
For what it is worth, I know that several people sell old M14 full auto switches, which people install if for no other reason than to take up the spot in the stock that was cut out for the switch. They are not hooked up to anything, they do not make the gun auto, and as far as I know, they are completely legal. So I think this is a non issue, but just don't rely on the opinions of the uninformed internet. Not a single response so far has come from a true expert in the field, and you know what they say about opinions, and you know what they say about free advice ....
For what it is worth, I know that several people sell old M14 full auto switches, which people install if for no other reason than to take up the spot in the stock that was cut out for the switch. They are not hooked up to anything, they do not make the gun auto, and as far as I know, they are completely legal. So I think this is a non issue, but just don't rely on the opinions of the uninformed internet. Not a single response so far has come from a true expert in the field, and you know what they say about opinions, and you know what they say about free advice ....
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Yeah but the stupidity and fear has to stop somewhere. Next, everyone will want you to call the FTB to see if putting a "heavy barrel" on an AR15 requires ATF approval, I mean after all, a "heavy barrel" is used only on machine guns........Wow, this is constructive intent because you want that barrel only because it can take auto fire, blah blah blah blah.
It is a part that does absolutely nothing to make the PS90 into a machine gun. In fact, those in the know know that you can make the PS90 into a machine gun without the P90 capable selector switch so the part is not even needed.
There is only one part on the entire PS90 that is an issue and that is the primary sear (as it is on hundreds of firearms). Screw with the primary sear and go to jail. That is why it is pinned, so you can't screw with it. Oh but people have tried and now because of that, we are still waiting for another re-design of the hammer packs. Although mechanically, I so not see how the hammer pack can be made any differently and still remain a SA hammer pack. And just because FN restricts the selector to Class 3 dealers does not make it automatically a no no item on any list maintained by the FTB.
Go ahead, call them. They are going to say write a letter for a determination. Then they are forced into a determination letter that nobody wants or needs. And you know what the letter is going to say? We do not recommend that you install it however it does not make the PS90 into a machine gun, or they will take the M16 trigger group approach and say that any part associated with M16 trigger group parts is a combination of parts used to make a machine gun and start the outlawing of all hammer packs, all hammer pack after market parts, all trigger components, etc etc etc. Yup, we really want to go down this route. It is a freaking part that does nothing to make the PS90 into a machine gun any more than a sling will make your firearm into a machine gun, even though I can use parts of a sling to make the PS90 into a machine gun. See, just about anything can be used to make something into something it was not designed to be.
I have a Jennings 22 that I can file down the sear and make it into a auto firing pistol (according to the web) so do we now get a determination from the FTB to see if you have a Jennings 22 then you can't possess any files because the are "parts" used to make a machine gun? Stupidity at its best.
Everytime you ask the FTB for a determination letter, the government becomes stronger and more restrictive of your rights. Oh, and it gives them an opportunity to change their minds, three or four or five times down the road, so it's useless anyways.
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Topic: Installation of machine-gun components in semi-automatic firearms.
The person publicly declares, "I'm not going to make a machine gun. I just want it to LOOK as close to one as possible..." doesn't let the person off the hook if he gets caught and is prosecuted....whether he actually broke a law or not. He's still going to pay attorney fees to defend himself.
Can you install a P90 hammer pack in a PS90? Can you install a P90 bolt in a PS90? Can you install a P90 selector in a PS90? Can you install an M16 Carrier in an AR15? Can you shove a hot dog down the barrel of a 12 gauge shotgun and fire the weapon? Can you wear clear plastic as clothes in public?...
The answer to every one of those questions is yes. Whether it is legal, prudent, SMART or not, can be determined in a number of ways, one of which would be to go ahead and do so and if you're arrested for doing so, please let everyone know how it felt.
And yes, an expert in the firearms field has responded in this thread, as well as an expert in soap.
The person publicly declares, "I'm not going to make a machine gun. I just want it to LOOK as close to one as possible..." doesn't let the person off the hook if he gets caught and is prosecuted....whether he actually broke a law or not. He's still going to pay attorney fees to defend himself.
Can you install a P90 hammer pack in a PS90? Can you install a P90 bolt in a PS90? Can you install a P90 selector in a PS90? Can you install an M16 Carrier in an AR15? Can you shove a hot dog down the barrel of a 12 gauge shotgun and fire the weapon? Can you wear clear plastic as clothes in public?...
The answer to every one of those questions is yes. Whether it is legal, prudent, SMART or not, can be determined in a number of ways, one of which would be to go ahead and do so and if you're arrested for doing so, please let everyone know how it felt.
And yes, an expert in the firearms field has responded in this thread, as well as an expert in soap.
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These are so broad statements that you can be tallking about a 50 caliber machine gun.
There are so many parts that are used on both the PS90 and P90 that I am sure that the installation of a P90 barrel has nothing to do with making the PS90 a machine gun and THAT piece did come off of a Title II firearm.
Be more specific. Is the installation of the PS90 Selector Switch that has been modified to go to the A fire position that will not change the firearm from a semi automatic firearm to an automatic firearm against the law or not?
You know, if I'm putting M16 parts in an AR15 I deserve to have them looking over my shoulder, but they just get to look, because I will never have an unregistered machine gun.
We are not talking about a M16/AR15. We are talking about a PS90 that has a plastic switch that has no operational value what-so-ever in making the PS90 a machine gun.
I sure can't find anything about this in the NFA handbook or any determination letters that I have seen or any one has produced. But this is OK because I know that deep in Federal Law, you can actually charge a ham sandwich with the crime of murder. Whether it is convicted is a whole 'nother story.
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