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SCAR high round count durability tested

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I didn't see anyone mention this when looking through the various threads here, but there's a thread on AR15.com about the durability of FN firearms by the owner of a business called Battlefield Vegas that I figured FNF members would love to know about.

BFV specialises in providing the machinegun experience to folks and have a huge selection of select-fire/full-auto firearms that can be rented and fired at their range (up to, and including miniguns!). According to him, SCARs (both light and heavy) are VERY popular due to their prominence in certain video games (as well as their military use) and they have guns with ~250,000 rounds through them, mostly in full auto.

Aside from barrel swaps at about 80,000 rounds (WAY past what FN rates them for), they've only had to replace a hammer and some hammer springs and other springs. They only recently had their first bolt failure on a MK16 with a crazy high round count (oh, and they broke a stock on a SCAR that was dropped, though he said he doesn't know if, or how many other times it might've been dropped before).

Here's the thread.



So for all those wondering about the longevity/durability of these platforms: In a nutshell, the increased stress of multiple mags daily of full-auto + total round counts WAY beyond what most of us will shoot through our semi-autos, and still, minimal failures.

The owner also has threads on high round count (100,000+ rounds) AR/M4s, AKs, pistols and optics. What I found most telling was that he stated that he originally wasn't a fan of the SCAR when he first tried one, but when someone asked him what his go-to rifle is now, based on his observations of all the ARs, AKs, FALs, Tavors, Steyrs, 416's and everything else the range has, he said after seeing how the SCARs have run on his range, he'd pick the SCAR for his go-to. That right there says a whole lot.



Max
 
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Ah, I read that but misinterpreted it. The way I interpreted it was, "don't replicate someone else's posts/articles in full. If YOU made the post though, you may reproduce it here".

Thanks for the clarification.



Max
 
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....."SCARs are lasting longer than anyone thought they would".....

Folks who would assume that any military inventoried weapon system designed and manufactured by FNH wouldn't last for 40,0000+ rounds knows less about guns than I do about feminine hygiene products...

I'm not at all surprised they are getting more than 90,000rds out of SCARs..
 
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He was saying that he was averaging 80K-100K rounds through cheap WASR AK's before the trunnions cracked. That's pretty cool considering it's a $400 rifle. SCAR's and AUG's primarily need springs, extractors, bolts etc. AR's will need several major parts replacement but the upper and lower receivers will last virtually forever- good thing to know to stock up on parts. The MR556 barrel didn't even last 10K and was his biggest disappointment. Lot's of discussions about Uzi's, HK Mp5's- how they last, which parts broke etc. which was neat. Overall very good reading and puts a lot of myths to rest but also if you like certain rifles, what parts to stock up on. What I got out of it is that keeping spare springs, bolts, and barrels is a must for whatever you are running.
 
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What I got out of it, especially after going there and talking to them in person a month ago, is that unless you're running full auto, every day that these guns will last almost anybody a lifetime with almost no parts issues at all since virtually no one(with a few exceptions) will ever run 50,000 plus rounds through one single rifle in their lifetime. There are those competition shooters and some "pros" that put excessive round counts through their weapons but most of them are constantly rebuilding their weapons with new parts anyways. These rifles will last most people their lifetime with normal maintenance and virtually no parts breakages ever.